RS 100 or RS 300 or ..

   I have owned Lark, Laser, Ent, 470. Have sailed on asymetrics and cats. Weigh 70Kg.

Now cosidering the next single hander to move to. Things to consider:
1. Quick but not extreme
2. Quick to rig and get on the road trailer
3. Good community / nationals scene
4. Good resale market
5. Good in the usual Southampton Water chop  (unlike me in my ol' Laser ).

Liking the idea of a kite to play with as per the RS 100, but I think it would be a pain in short leg courses compared to the single sail of say an RS 300.

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RoundTheBow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Nov 11 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote RoundTheBow Report Post Quote Reply Topic: RS 100 or RS 300 or .. Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 5:02pm
	I have owned Lark, Laser, Ent, 470. Have sailed on asymetrics and cats. Weigh 70Kg. Now cosidering the next single hander to move to. Things to consider: 1. Quick but not extreme 2. Quick to rig and get on the road trailer 3. Good community / nationals scene 4. Good resale market 5. Good in the usual Southampton Water chop (unlike me in my ol' Laser ). Liking the idea of a kite to play with as per the RS 100, but I think it would be a pain in short leg courses compared to the single sail of say an RS 300.

Rockhopper Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Nov 07 Location: Eastry Online Status: Offline Posts: 642	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockhopper Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 5:34pm
	300 is cheaper and holds it value or do you want a 100 costing a lot more money but again seems to be holding it value but they seem slow to sell on Me i have had a 300 it was brill and i think everyone should have one or have a go in one at least once in there lives
	Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo

Ruscoe Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ruscoe Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:15pm
	The 300 really is one of the best boats i have ever owned. Its so rewarding, fast and the open circuit is great. The chaps are all really friendly and i have not once heard of an argument and certainly not a protest. The 300 offers super value as well, you will need to pay £3k for a boat but they never seem to loose value, so £ for £ probably the best value racing out there. I have never sailed a 100 so i cant comment. but there always seems a few for sale, they seem to of reached a level in terms of price at the moment (around £6k)


laser193713 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser193713 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:42pm
	I would say the 100 is harder to sail fast in a chop than a laser, or at least a lot harder work to sail fast. Also at 70kgs you may struggle in any breeze without the new 7.4m sail. They are awesome boats, and i would say that coz i own one, but to sail them at any reasonable level you really do have to work the boat very hard! The 300 is a bit less of a muscle boat and rewards technique more than hard hiking. It is also a bit faster than an 8.4 rigged 100 in most breeze.

doeywizard Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 16 Jun 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 150	Post Options Post Reply Quote doeywizard Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:49pm
	never sailed eather but from what I hear you may struggle in a 100 in any strong breeze and they are a boat you will perfect swimming in before they go fast, the 300 is less weight orientated but more technical and needs to be sailed with that in mind all the time, it is the technical sailors that will be best rewarded, If I am wrong this is only what I have heard

haroosh Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jan 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 521	Post Options Post Reply Quote haroosh Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 10:32pm
	I'm under 70kgs and having sailed moths in the past I like sailing the 300 but for me the 100 has it simply because it's got a kite. I sail the 8.4 rig and didnt even bother buyingnthenlarger 10.2. Downwind the 100 is a superb boat and gives you the true asymmetric feeling in a single handler. It's also a very easy and quick boat to rig. If you can afford it then it seems to meet all your criteria. You should go and get a go in a demo boat. I'm sure you'll be impressed.... Cheers, Keith.
	Keith RS100 GBR 116 (XLR8)

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 11:01pm
	I think the first thing you should do is borrow a kite rigged singlehander and have a good play and see if its a game you want to play... When you've found that out the choice is easy, but if you don't know that the choice is impossible.

rogue Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 04 Dec 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 978	Post Options Post Reply Quote rogue Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 11:18pm
	+1 on Jim... the two are chalky and cheese, try before you buy. If you've got local windward / leeward racing or your plan to travel, get the 100. If you want a boat for round the cans sailing then get the 300. At 70kgs you'll fly in the 8.4 RS100 rig, but you'll be surprised how deep the angles are offwind- it simply won't hold its sub 1000 handicap if you can't use the kite, in fact the 300 is faster upwind and in single sail reaching.

ASok Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739	Post Options Post Reply Quote ASok Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 8:07am
	We have a small but enthusiastic Vareo fleet at Netley and they seem to cope with the Southampton Water conditions. I'm not sure that the club 'round the cans' courses suit them, but they turn out often enough so cant be that bad.

dics Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Oct 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317	Post Options Post Reply Quote dics Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 12:42pm
	Re the question. If you want an RS boat I (kind of) undertsatnd your question but that is where any similarities stop. You need to see what type of tactical sailing you want to do. Then that will either push you down the assymetric route of the non-assymetric route. Otherwise your question is like comparing a MPS with a Contender. You can not do it. Everything is different from the top of the mast to the bottom of the dagger/board.