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frensham ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Frensham Pond SC, the current RYA Sailing Club of the Year, are seeking to change their elderly Wayfarers for something more suitable for general Sailability sailing. Nothing wrong with the Wayfarers, they are great load carriers, and can be adapted well to carriage of severely disabled people. But they are capsizeable, and in these litigious times we need to be careful. What would readers recommend as a suitable alternative ? The boat needs to be uncapsizeable, maximum 16 feet long (condition of our lease), able to carry six, able to be adapted to strap-in seats, easily handled by two people ashore, and easily reefed. The Laser Stratos Keel suggests itself, but there must be alternatives. All suggestions welcome.
Nick - RYA Principal |
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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Those carbon artemis boats look pretty nice, but they are probably over budget! and perhaps over length!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Uncapsizeable is a big ask... I can't believe you'll get an uncapsizeable boat that will sail on Frensham... Self righting after capsize is about all you'd be able to say about a small keelboat. Anything is going to be capable of being knocked down horizontal if a big gust comes over the hill.
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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To carry six is going to equal a big boat, as for not been able to capsize, it will occur, even a yacht can capsize.
Something bigger would be a cornish crabber, or drascombe lugger. They can be adapted I am sure, not cheap though. Edit - Drascombe lugger is ideal but it is 18ft, the Drascombe dabber is 16ft though. Edited by radixon |
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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a little crabber 17 would be ok if it was a foot shorter |
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A Seabadger ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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Papercourt have a small Cornish Crabber for sailability. Why not contact them and ask.
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I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every moment of it.
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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Martin 16?
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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At Grafham sailability (where I am an SI) we use a Drascombe Longboat, which is ideal because it's stable, it can easily accommodate 8 sailors, we have a choice of sail combinations plus there is no boom to whack anybody about the head. Added to this we have a small outboard fitted so that we can motor back in an emergency or still take groups out if the weather is bad. I would think a smaller version of this would be perfect for you.
If you want to see ours in action you'd be very welcome to come to Grafham and have a look and go for a cruise. We run on Monday mornings and Thursday afternoons. Nessa oh, and we are currently figuring out strap in seats but think they will be achieveable. Edited by winging it |
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the same, but different...
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frensham ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Thanks for your help, chaps. Jim, I think we can live with a knock-down, so long as there is almost immediate righting. The Drascombe range seems to get all your approval, and the Dabber, at 15'6" seeems to fit the bill. I did, though, hear an alarming story about swamping possibilities. The Martin 16 is, I think, only a two-person boat so not really suitable for 'trips round the bay'. Something similar to the the Cornish Crabber also seems a possible. Notice none of you commented on the Laser Stratos Keel, is there a reason against it - other than cost ? Now, if there was some way to fit a bulb keel to the Wayfarer's centreboard.............
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Captain Morgan ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211 |
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I vaguely remember seeing somewhere (advertisement?) that there is an option of a ballasted centreboard for the Wayfarer, but it might have been the Wanderer. Can anyone else remember seeing this somewhere? It probably won't fit the bill, but it might be an option. |
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