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    Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 11:28am
Hello!

I am searching for a keel boat with an overall length
shorter than 4m.
I have already found the illusion and 2.4m R boats. Do
you know more boats that match this criteria?

What would you say comparing illusion and 2.4mR:
What are the main differences?
And which boat will be better for strong winds and severe
offshore conditions? (No worry it would be unmaned)

I am looking forward for your answer!

Thanks!
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The Illusion struggles to cope with the sea state in Bembridge Harbour, due to its low free board, at times. It would not cope with anything other that sheltered water IMHO.
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Originally posted by philipp.

And which boat will be better for strong winds and severe
offshore conditions?

No open keelboat will survive "severe offshore conditions". Big breaking wave, swamp, sink. 

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If there wasn't going to be anyone in it you could fill in the cockpit. I don't think either boat is particularly dry, so some from of automatic bilge pump would probably be required.
Millimeter and Defender 12 were other variations on the theme. I think the main difference is that the 2.4m doesn't have a spinnaker where as the others do.

http://www.miniopen.de/ offer an offshore style boat.

2.4m probably offers the easiest availability.
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Originally posted by Lukepiewalker



http://www.miniopen.de/ offer an offshore style boat.



Oh my good lord.. I have no words.
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How about

http://www.my-newtsailing.co.uk/  they were at the dinghy show last year.

or if you are planning a round the world trip how about this:

http://www.microyacht.com/s.htm (    scary!)

Or if that is too large, how about this:

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=144783  (even more scary!)

 

 

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by philipp.

And which boat will be better for strong winds and severe
offshore conditions?

No open keelboat will survive "severe offshore conditions". Big breaking wave, swamp, sink. 

I can easily imagine dragons sinking in severe conditions...

Would open keelboats with double floor, e.g. Dyas have a chance?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Andymac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 11:09am

Originally posted by philipp.



And which boat will be better for strong winds and severe
offshore conditions? (No worry it would be unmaned) 


OK Philipp, spill the beans. What are you planning to do then?

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hunter euorpa.

my housemate sailed round britian solo in one last year and thats only 18ft. had some massive seas and it was ok. go to just google als boden or bombay duck

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Originally posted by philipp.

Hello!

I am searching for a keel boat with an overall length
shorter than 4m.
I have already found the illusion and 2.4m R boats. Do
you know more boats that match this criteria?

What would you say comparing illusion and 2.4mR:
What are the main differences?
And which boat will be better for strong winds and severe
offshore conditions? (No worry it would be unmaned)

I am looking forward for your answer!

Thanks!


Are you planning to sail her via computer from your bed? Best way of sailing offshore that I can think of!
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