Kell boat shorter than 4m?
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Topic: Kell boat shorter than 4m?
Posted By: philipp.
Subject: Kell boat shorter than 4m?
Date Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 11:28am
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Hello!
I am searching for a keel boat with an overall length shorter than 4m. I have already found the illusion and 2.4m R boats. Do you know more boats that match this criteria? What would you say comparing illusion and 2.4mR: What are the main differences? And which boat will be better for strong winds and severe offshore conditions? (No worry it would be unmaned) I am looking forward for your answer! Thanks! |
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Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 12:21pm
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The Illusion struggles to cope with the sea state in Bembridge Harbour, due to its low free board, at times. It would not cope with anything other that sheltered water IMHO.
------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 2:44pm
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No open keelboat will survive "severe offshore conditions". Big breaking wave, swamp, sink. |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 3:04pm
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If there wasn't going to be anyone in it you could fill in the cockpit. I don't think either boat is particularly dry, so some from of automatic bilge pump would probably be required. Millimeter and Defender 12 were other variations on the theme. I think the main difference is that the 2.4m doesn't have a spinnaker where as the others do. http://www.miniopen.de/ offer an offshore style boat. 2.4m probably offers the easiest availability. ------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard" Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 4:01pm
Oh my good lord.. I have no words. |
Posted By: JohnW
Date Posted: 07 Mar 09 at 5:27pm
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How about http://www.my-newtsailing.co.uk/ - http://www.my-newtsailing.co.uk/ they were at the dinghy show last year. or if you are planning a round the world trip how about this: http://www.microyacht.com/s.htm - http://www.microyacht.com/s.htm ( Or if that is too large, how about this: http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=144783 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=144783 (even more scary!)
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scary!)Posted By: skslr
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 10:57am
I can easily imagine dragons sinking in severe conditions... Would open keelboats with double floor, e.g. Dyas have a chance? |
Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 11:09am
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OK Philipp, spill the beans. What are you planning to do then? |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 12:40pm
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hunter euorpa. my housemate sailed round britian solo in one last year and thats only 18ft. had some massive seas and it was ok. go to just google als boden or bombay duck ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 12 Mar 09 at 12:22pm
Are you planning to sail her via computer from your bed? Best way of sailing offshore that I can think of! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 12 Mar 09 at 1:55pm
Lovely boats, Dragons, but plenty have sunk in a good deal less than severe conditions. I once sailed a Daring that had spent several weeks at the bottom of the Solent before being lifted. A rather spooky feeling. Any open keelboat is going to sink if it takes a large breaking wave. That's why boats designed to sail offshore have to have the ability to seal the companionway.
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Posted By: westward
Date Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 6:09pm
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Hi,
The thing is do you really want less than 4 meters OA or would you be happy with a boat with overhangs but 4m on the waterline? 
If so the Herreshoff 12 1/2 springs to mind. Or the Joel White centre board Haven 12 1/2. Lovely little boats but probably as rare as hens teeth in the UK. |