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    Posted: 09 Jun 08 at 9:32pm
Hi everyone,

After contributing to the thread about choosing a "Single hander for a 13 /13.5 stone sailor" - clicky........at a lardy 14 stone I'm toying with the idea of changing from my Vareo to a Laser/Rooster 8.1 as this might be a more appropriate weapon for a bit of local 'round the cans' club racing. It's been suggested that I might be very bored without the Vareo's kite. Has anyone else changed from an asymmetric back to something a bit more 'plain vanilla' ?.......and what was their experience ? positive or negative ?

Nigel

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  1. I don't have enough money for a Phantom Dead
  2. I've only ever briefly sailed a Laser whilst on holiday in Greece some years ago Confused
  3. There's no decent Laser fleet at my club Ermm
  4. There's several Vareos but they don't come out to play Cry
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Yes.

VERY bored.

Don't do it Nigel .. You escaped from the clutches of a badly designed boat early on ... Dont fall back into the trap!!

At least go for a Supernova if you want something singlehanded without the kite.

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or perhaps a SoSlow?

NOT a laser, the only thing they are good for is decent club racing and arseing around on a reach in WAVES in F5+

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i wouldnt get a laser for club racing unless there is already a fleet of them. they do crap on handicap and at 14stone you wont find them very comfy..... not sure what to suggest though sorry 
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Scary-Oh or SoSlow ... and I don't think you seem like a SoSlow sailor myself ... Try out a phantom, You might be able to find an older one in your budget. (Vareo prices are on the up, so you should be able to get more than you expect!

Of course, Try a Finn ... If you don't mind having to duck a little to get under the boom when its windy! (Ebay link - Nothing to do with me though. )

Or £2500 for a wooden Phantom sounds like a good deal to me! (Should get some admiring glances in the boat park as well )
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As Mr Rooster says downwind in a single sail single hander through waves is just about as much fun as you can have.  The combination of working your weight the, boats heel the sheets and your route through the waves is a real mental and physical challenge.  Lest face it, if it's go enough for Ben it's good enough for us.
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The 8.1 is very top heavy, just think what that will do to your back and knees.

I know of one and the guy has problems launching it and keeping it upright just on the pontoon.

Dont bother with the Laser 8.1, I'd find another handicap boat to have fun with (contender??)

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Originally posted by radixon

The 8.1 is very top heavy, just think what that will do to your back and knees.

I know of one and the guy has problems launching it and keeping it upright just on the pontoon.

Dont bother with the Laser 8.1, I'd find another handicap boat to have fun with (contender??)


 I know the effect you're referring to as I've seen it on tin rig Phantoms where the combination of a light hull and a heavy rig means the boat wants to tip even when there's no wind. I really haven't seen that on my 8.1 though.
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The 8.1 is very top heavy, i am no means a weak guy but it really is a struggle to put the mast up when rigging. But it is great fun in a race of full rigs just pulling away.

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Originally posted by Villan


Or £2500 for a wooden Phantom sounds like a good deal to me! (Should get some admiring glances in the boat park as well )

I think that may of just been bought in the last few weeks by another chap at Alton.

A 8.1 may be very top heavy but there is always plenty of people around the pond to help you out

Edit - Here you go Nigel, i've found a laser for you... probably a bit more than what you want to spend at £16,000 tho... http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=87 463



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