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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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They arnt any different thats !!! but when we have beaten the Cherubs before the said it was to light so you cant win!
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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Without trying to sound sarcastic.... how do ideal cherub conditions differ from ideal 14 conditions? |
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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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Very true we didnt sail it well, but still well enough to beat ALL of the cherubs!!!! In ideal cherub conditions aswell, we didnt do bad considering we had only sailed it twice before and anyone that knows about 14's knows the morrison 12 isnt an easy boat to sail!! |
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Smight at BBSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 07 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1129 |
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I know it's just a case of finish my n12 as qiocl;y as possible then sell it
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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Oh, and if you haven't bourght it yet, get on with it, you're running out of time for the Nats. |
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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Sounds like you boys need to try a Cherub before dissing them. There's quite a big difference between "Fast" and "Quick". If you want fast, but a cat, 18, or 49er, if you want quick, buy a cherub or a 12 (depending on your weight).
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Smight at BBSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 07 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1129 |
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tbh the cherub and the i14 are very different classes that appeal to different people. I'm sure that that the majority of the cherub fleet will accept that the most of the time a cherub would not keep up with a 14 but you couldn't put 22 stone in a i14 and get the same performance over the wind range as you would from a cherub, for example. Yes there will be some i14's that may cope with lightweights in them but you'll also find some heavyier sailors in cherubs. They are as i said very different class that have some very different boats.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The i14 was pretty poor for a whole chunk of its history, from the 60s right through until the amalgamation. Thinking in the long term I can't ignore that. They're fine boats now, but it took throwing out the entire fleet and starting again with what was to all intents and purposes a new class. The 29er is IMHO the best one design of about the last 25 years, and I think it could well turn out to be one of the great boats. The XX on the other hand I am a lot less convinced about. |
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BBSCFaithfull ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251 |
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Forgive my little brother ha ha. If he payed attention he wud no tht russ hasnt had it that long. If the cherubites really wanted to put their money where their mouths were theyd come down to itchenor and race the 14s there. I can promise u even the mighty atom bomb would be swept aside as most of the 14 sailors are seriously good with very quick boats. Judging by the way my 14 even in the light stuff was getting past the 800s im pretty sure we could hold off the cherub contingent
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Smight at BBSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 07 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1129 |
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I think that could be an example of a well sailed cherub vs a not so well sailed 14. TBH the new i14's, on paper, should leave the cherubs standing but if a boats not sailed well it's not going to be fast be it an 18 or an oppie. I remember when i first started sailing the 200, I raced a n12 (3111) which as it happens is the first registered baggy trousers, and it left us standing. Now we've got used to the boat, improved our sailing dramaticly and now were faster than that n12. Edited by Smight at BBSC |
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