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    Posted: 24 Jan 07 at 3:32pm

Taken from the 29er worlds news on the home page;

At 2pm the wind registered 37 knots, a speed that exceeds the maximum of 25 knots established in the rules of the 29er Class World Championship

Now I'm in one of the lightest Fireball teams going at just under 19stone all up and we raced in 25+ knots on sunday and it was the most fun I have ever had in the boat since we got it. Why deprive the 29er saioors of the challenge and thrill of this much wind?



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Seems strange, are there any other classes that have this sort of rule?

 

You'd think that if your racing a 29er then you sailing skill should enable you to sail safely in 25 knots

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Post Options Post Options   Quote FireballNeil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 07 at 3:48pm
my thought exactly to be honest! It's in 25 knows where the good really shine out from the rest! Unlike me on the sundy mentioned above GYBE MARK!
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Appendix 4 of B14 class rules state

Appendix 4 - Event Rules

 a. The minimum wind speed for starting will be that in which the race committee considers the boats have sufficient capability for pre-start manoeuvres 

b. Races should not start, or races in progress should be abandoned when:

i wind gusts exceed 25 knots for more than 30 seconds  

ii wind gusts exceed 30 knots for any duration

iii the race committee considers conditions are unsafe for sailing

The 49er class rules say exactly the same thing (word for word) in their appendix #2







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We just have a minimum wind rule... much more sensible 
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I think the 49er has that too.

We used to have it in the Musto rules but dropped it as we like sailing in the breeze too...

Now we have the below;

1.2. Races should not start, or races in progress should be abandoned when:

(a) The race committee considers conditions are unsafe for sailing.
(b) The wind is less than 4 Knots for more than 5 minutes.

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why have a maximum wind rule? thats just silly. isnt the bit in the SIs about by launching you signify that you are happy to sail in the conditions designed to stop people going out in conditions in which they wont survive? surely they have this in the SIs for the 29er worlds?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MRJP BUZZ 585 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 07 at 6:04pm
I guess the idea is to stop the really light crews being completely disadvantaged when it is high wind and they can;t sail it whereas the heavier crews can pick up marks just for getting round the course
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skiffman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 07 at 6:10pm

it was not really a rule more of a guideline, race officers would sail us until like any class the fleet can not handle it anymore, At San Fran worlds in 2005 there were quite a few races that officially would have breached this rule. It was only made a big deal last summer when in the middle of a race the wind dissapeared and half the competitors were timed out. So they all protested and re ran the race.

I think its for race officiers that have never been a race officier for 29er, 49er etc and a guide for them.

heres a pic from san fran in one of the morning light wind races....



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