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    Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 11:17am

You're on a slippery slope, Fizz... Soon you'll want to turn a Cherub in a 12ft skiff and stick a humongous kite on it "just to see what's gonna happen"...

Brainiacs, all of you

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It's up to £205 now. Can we all stick £50 in a hat, buy it and stick a couple of Cherub rigs with 4 trapezes on it & see what breaks first when you hoist kites simultaneously?

(Oh God! I'm turning into a Cherub sailor with thoughts like that!)

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Originally posted by fizzicist

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I bet it'd be easier to sell herpes than sell that thing!



I love it!   I think it looks McSexy!
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Someone has joined our club with a thing like an Indian canoe. It has two masts and gaff sails. The best bit is that it has barge boards which you hinge down on the lee side. The whole thing is very well made and must have cost a bomb. On the rare occaisions that it sails it is crewed by a middle aged couple , Mr at the back, Mrs in the front and old grandma in the middle. Its a very odd sight since they never smile but (slowly) sail around. The only time I ever have detected any facial expression was when we planed at them rather out of control aiming at grandma, who looked alarmed. We veered away, broached and wiped out. The funny thing is, they didn't even laugh. Martians?
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Yes, but to compare like to like (IOR maxis versus IOR maxis) the ketches were seriously quick on the reach. Some say the multi-slot effect really works well on the reaches.

Mainly though, what the hell it looks cool! Now all you need is a couple of big hiking planks and you can go for it!

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Yep and in the first whitbread with W-60s they had to ban them from using their mast-head kites in the southern ocean to make sure they didn't beat the Maxis overall. What with the Maxis costing a bucket load more and being the premier class at the time.

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I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Originally posted by CT249

I have to say, I've always wondered how quick a rig like that would in the right conditions. I'm thinking it could scare a lot of people.

I'm not sure. There are no jibs so both sails are behind a mast (bluff body) which has a big impact on performance. The rear sail is also in the dirty air of the first.

In light airs due to the laminar boundry layer over the earth only the very top of the sail is really very effective, having two rigs means they will be much shorter and not having much area operating in this region of decent wind.

The added weight of the second mast is not going to help matters either.

In high wind it might work since the centre of effort will be lower (shorter masts) so the healing moment will be less for a given amount of sail. I'm not sure how controllable it will be though.

Wasn't this kind of setup done by the old whitbread maxi's?



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Originally posted by CT249


I have to say, I've always wondered how quick a rig like that would in the right conditions.


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Originally posted by mike ellis

Originally posted by JimC

And you can put a second smaller asymettric from the aft mast as a spinnaker staysail and the other nipper can play with that too... fun for all the family.



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I have to say, I've always wondered how quick a rig like that would in the right conditions. I'm thinking it could scare a lot of people.
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Well it looks like problem solved to me.  An excellent solution  .


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