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    Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 4:54pm

Sorry 2 should have been the other way around.

There is no such thing as skiff type,either you are or you wish to be associated with us!!

Laser 2 cannot comply with any of the above.

aust cherub is not a skiff in the true sense but a feeder class to other more powerful skiff classes.

29er, 49er cannot comply with any of the above as,

1 strict ONE design

2 well accepted by the establishment (Olympics)

3 history nil before mid 1990's

4 NOT ALLOWED TO DEVELOP unless approved by the Beithwatie, etc.marketing machine.

5. 49er was developed from the 18 "Prime" 2 handed 18ft Skiff

skiffs have always developed the OLD/ original 18 rule were.

a race starts a 2pm

b boat must have "colour patch" on sail

c boat on waterline to be 18ft

d there is no d

ABOVE ALL IS YOUR CLASS NAME 49er Skiff, B14 Skiff, RS 400 Skiff etc. no they are 49er B14 RS400. Musto Skiff, we don't get them down here?

I wish/ demand that marketing machines give back the name SKIFF to the people who started all this "NO LIMITS SAILING".

refer my previous post there should be a futher point

8. no ideal crew size/ combination.

the ideal in a 49er for example is extra tall 6ft+ due to the weight equalization rules. example Adrienne Cahalan steered 12s and then 18s she only small 65-70 and about 5'7" and competitve.

I'm glad somone started this cause I was getting a bit peved at all this 49er "skiff" type crap

Lastly we don't call a 49er a skiff there a 49er... end of story.

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Originally posted by Wave Rider

You SHOULD buy a boat becuase you like/enjoy its performance/looks and some people/manufacturers just call their boats a skiff just becuase it is fast and it sounds 'macho' to own a skiff and may boost sales (i think this is sad, you shouldnt buy a boat 'cos its a skiff, it should be because of the factors above)!

If no one can settle on what a skiff actually is and which boats fall into that category, just disagree! The RYA have described their definition of a skiff which is most likely what a skiff is!

'a boat which has the ability to plane up and downwind which alos has the use of significant righting moment e.g. racks, trapeze or both'

Most of all DOES IT MATTER?

Yes some of it is a marketing machine.

Who remember the 125'? AC Kiwi yacht could cirtinally comply with signficant righting moment, lage wings and huge crew.

Is it a melges 30? has wings and about 7? crew all on trap? then acording to this its a skiff.

Does it matter, F^&$%g oath it does, it would be like calling a robin reliant(that funny three wheeled Car) a sports car cause it has TWO doors and "stripped out"

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So anyway...... they are just rowing boats with sails on.....

Skiff/skif/n. A rowing boat or sculling boat, of wood; that can be propelled by one person (single), or two (doubles), rowing one pair of oars (blades) per person. Can be used for leisure outings and for competitive racing.

Appeared on the Thames over 150 years ago.

I think that about does it.  Thankyou and good night



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Yeah you've got a good point. Skiff really is a word that we could argue about forever, and whether you live in the Thames Valley or Sydney harbour, you must be able to see that this is going on for a long time. The Aussies seem to want us to leave them alone to their boats that we clearly dont understand, whereas those of us who grow up to think of a skiff as an old lump of wood may perhaps at least try to be open minded.
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Yeah i forgot about rowing skiff's hmm do they plane upwind and downwind
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 7:23pm

Originally posted by Wave Rider

Yeah i forgot about rowing skiff's hmm do they plane upwind and downwind

They don't need to: something that long and skinny can exceed its hull speed without planing, just like cats do.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by Wave Rider

You are all arguing about boats being skiff's or
not, all it is, is a name,


Most of all DOES IT MATTER?




Do you apply this logic when bying a car?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by anonsteve1

The Aussies seem to want us to leave them alone
to their boats that we clearly dont understand.



Speak for yourself!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wave Rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 10:34pm
NO i didnt mean it like that but im only 14 so i havent had much experience in buying cars
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No worries mate.... it was a philosophical gybe any way

i.e there's alot in a name..... SKODA!
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