Airborne 12ft skiff

Cheers JimC very informtive.

I read you cherub guys are testing bigger kites but wasn't aware you were looking at a bigger upwind sail area as well.

What sort of weight is that Loco Perro, are you having to put correctors in yet or do you just beef up the hull?

Edited by Twin Poles

Originally posted by Chris 249 Ooops...can I say "bugger" on a UK forum? Insert "crickey" or "dash it" if you please.

na, sweet as mate!

Soon the cherubs will probably have 15.5m² upwind and + 21m² down wind..... so getting more 12 skifflike, and therefore requiring a completely different design development route.

I have been looking at the Woof 12 design.... very nice and fair, and with a flattish part of hull horizontal - regardless of the heel angle!

so maybe the next generation of uk cherubs may look more like this.

The current low sail area favours flat shapes that plane early, but need to be sailed flat or heeled to windward.
The best training for cherub sailing is moth sailing where you learn the windward heel thing.

Originally posted by Twin Poles From what i've seen of 12 footers they tend to have alot rounder hull shapes compared to the Cherub's harder chines. Can anyone tell me why this is? Does it make them easier to control at high speeds?

My theory is that the Cherub hulls are bolt upright hulls - you shed about a knot for every 2 degrees of heel, but really quick when upright. This is probably exactly right for a moderately canvassed single string boat which is what all the current UK designs were when on the drawing board. Twelves on the other hand have a lot more power, and are rather more challenging tkeep bolt upright every second so slightly more drag in exchange for more tolerance to heel is a good call - especially when the static waterline beam is a bit narrower as well.

Originally posted by hurricane "cough" tornado sport "cough"

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