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    Posted: 25 Nov 07 at 8:16pm
Er, I don't want to appear a fanboy here but haven't you overlooked the
RS500?

I know it's not this forums favorite, but they did get over 30 at the nationals
and they've only been available this past year.

And they must have built a 100 plus by now.
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The Iso, to be fair, has been without anyone that's actually wanted to build them for a fair few years- when was the last time Topper put an ad in any mag for them? Promotion is now much more down to the volunteer class association. There's also an issue that the top guys in the class are convinced that the older ones are fastest (for the first race of the day at least)- one member of the technical committee sails a boat that has the rudder post lashed to the gunwhale, and if he won't buy a new one, who will? As far as "latest sail number" goes, I'd picked up (whilst sailing one) that the last known built White Formula built one was 1207, though 1206 has never been seen. The official sail number of the new one (which hasn't actually been bought by anyone) hadn't been decided lasy I hear; think they were going to plump for 1300. Remember, the first one was numbered 500 or 501.

The Boss and Spice have no builder, and no real class to speak of. But then, the Spice barely existed- as far as the Iso guys know, Topper sold approximately sixty of them.

The 5000 is no longer listed as part of Laser's range.

Tasar and B14 are different to the rest, as they aren't UK centric and never have been.
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You can still buy 5K bits from laser.
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I think Laser were trying to get rid of the 5000 moulds a while ago, they may not even exist anymore. As for bits, I heard a couple of weeks ago they're down to the last 5 spinnakers...
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Originally posted by G.R.F

Er, I don't want to appear a fanboy here but haven't you overlooked the RS500?

RS have overlooked publishing anything in the way of useful data.
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Perhaps some boats never wear out. They may get a bit shabby and need a bit of a tidy but still stay stiff and fast. We are of course talking Tasar here, stick a new mylar rig on and a bit of Dulux and save yourself the cost of a new boat. A better judge of Tasar numbers would be to count the new rigs.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aardvark_issues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 07 at 9:14am
Originally posted by tickler

Perhaps some boats never wear out. They may get a bit shabby and need a bit of a tidy but still stay stiff and fast. We are of course talking Tasar here, stick a new mylar rig on and a bit of Dulux and save yourself the cost of a new boat. A better judge of Tasar numbers would be to count the new rigs.


Hardly going to help class growth though is it. It will keep everyone involved happy, but theres no easy route in, which is most of the point of a smod.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chew my RS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 07 at 9:21am

Y&Y missed me (NS14) out!

One sold last year and hopefully one, possibly two, more on the water for the sart of next season.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chew my RS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 07 at 12:27pm

As best I can make out the three big manufacturers have introduced 24 new racing monohulls in the last 15 years (including the general purpose Laser 2000 and Pico). Eleven have now been discontinued by the original manufacturer, of which 5 have found new builders. This doesn't include the B14 which was also dropped by LDC, but was not originally a LDC boat. In that time there have also been four 9ers launched, one of which seems to have sunk without trace and another seems to be in the balance now that the Olympic women's high performance skiff is a no go. So it seems that nearly 50% of new SMODs don't last 15 years (most not even 10). I guess that is symptomatic of the dinghy industry becoming more professional and being prepared to dump "slightly profitable" Product A in favour of "more profitable" Procuct B. That, and the fact that many "Product A's" were rushed-to-market rubbish that no-one wanted when the initial hype died down.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 07 at 12:38pm
If you compare this to most industries, 50% of products still around after 15 years is a remarkably high figure. And yes, it's an "industry". Caveat emptor.
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