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    Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

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... what happens to them all?



Imagine getting 1/2 way through the job and realizing you had the wrong Topper...

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Originally posted by G.R.F.

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... what happens to them all?



That is sacrilege ... how could you do that to such a fine craft ...?

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As technology moves on the competitive all up weight seem to come down ....

This is exactly the reason we developed the Halo proposition.  As technology has got 'better' we decided to use the technology 'gain' to offer a larger rig rather than simply accept that it would lead towards 'lightness' increasingly becoming the dominant factor.  If we don't react as a provider this over time would lose support from the 'larger gentlemen' ! 

It is increasingly happening in many traditionally 'heavies' classes and so it was no surprise when we were asked by some larger helms if we could do 'a Blaze rig for bigger helms'.  They wanted 'round the cans' simplicity but to be able to plane upwind for much of the time and to more than keep up with the lightweights offwind.

The production rig just about to be launched and the Halo rules reinforce the nature of this derivative class - simply that it pays to be heavier !  'Lightweights' can join in but always face a minimum weight rule that means they may have to carry weights.  However they get no leverage compensation and the rig size will to a real extent be self-policing.  

Halo is never likely to beat spinnaker equipped boats on windward/leeward but upwind, reaching around the cans and whenever it blows watch out - the helms will tend to be that bit bigger as well - and with a smile to match.

Blatent plug over ....

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... how could you do that to such a fine craft ...?



Er craft(s) we 'done' loads..
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Guest#260

... how could you do that to such a fine craft ...?



Er craft(s) we 'done' loads..

That's vandilism Grumpfs ... were they really beyond use?

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Originally posted by blaze720

  'Lightweights' can join in but always face a
minimum weight rule that means they may have to carry weights. 


FFS Lightweights can join in?

Dwarfs?

And I once got banned for calling someone/thing Gay?

I'm precisely having this very debate with those t**sers on the windsurf
forum where the Gay police like here seem to hold sway, yet ignore isms
that are not personal choice.

Folk are born light. They are born Short. Nothing they can do about it
except defend themselves with humour and skillsets if they're lucky
enough to be gifted with them.

They are also customers or potential customers you industry fools who
have no real conception of the modern market place which is why your
stupid market is drying up with the exception of one supplier.

And that quote? The sort of patronisation that equals the sales skill
involved in leaving a customer with an open chequebook to answer a
mobile phone, an incident that would have cost any of my team their job.

Rant over.

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Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Guest#260

... how could
you do that to such a fine craft ...?


Er craft(s) we 'done' loads..


That's vandilism Grumpfs ... were they really beyond use?



No and they are/were a silly childs toy.

Whoever bought them should have been made to sail one - forever.
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There are people who have learned in Toppers who have gone on to be National or world champions in many different classes. Maybe learning in something which isn't beyond the skills of a beginner is a good idea? Perhaps you should have spent a season in one rather than trying to learn on an MPS?
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Well hindsight is 20/20.

But I did learn in an MPS and the only reason I haven't still got it was
because it wasn't mine in the first place and I gave it back before I broke
it which I most certainly would have done eventually. Way better more
experienced sailors than me break them on our beach.

And since this is getting to be defend my personal honour day.

I'm a half decent helm now, certainly at club level, the Alto and the Blaze
have totally restored my self confidence (maybe it's showing too much) I'd
heartily recommend both those boats to anyone, indeed I'm not actually
looking forward to selling either of them nor having to endure the
inevitable learning curve that will come with the RS100, it is certainly
more difficult than the Blaze and that was in flat water what it would be
like off Hythe in a blow, God only knows..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 3:13pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Guest#260

... how could
you do that to such a fine craft ...?


Er craft(s) we 'done' loads..


That's vandilism Grumpfs ... were they really beyond use?



No and they are/were a silly childs toy.

Whoever bought them should have been made to sail one - forever.

Is it not better to introduce kids to sailing in toppers than never at all.  That aside I genuinely hope the plastic was recycled and not just binned, bad enough throwing away boats without wasting resources in the process. 

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