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    Posted: 12 Dec 04 at 10:28pm
I'm talking more like a 49er for kids-wings and spinny etc. real thing so
not too like the spice. But ive sailed one of those-they are great boats-
they just weren't marketed right
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You've got to ask why. By the time you've gone through the 29er and really picked up the skills to a high standard you're probably ready for a senior class.
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Originally posted by JimC

By the time you've gone through the 29er and really picked up the skills to a high standard you're probably ready for a senior class.

Yes, but given the reasonably small weight range of the 29er, you may not yet be tall enough / heavy enough for the high performance senior classes. If you are a girl, you are very unlikely ever to be the right physique to be competitive in classes like the 49er or I14.

It would be nice to have a performance class that girls / smaller blokes can sail competitively. It wouldn't need to be a youth class, in fact it would be better if it was a senior one.

Now, where did I leave that high-performance twin-wire boat I was sailing this weekend with an all-up crew weight of 130Kg?  

 

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I agree that the cherub is a good lightweights boat, but I think we need a
cheaper, one design class of simmilar attributes
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Originally posted by laser ripper


not too like the spice. But ive sailed one of those-they are great boats-
they just weren't marketed right
nik

has anyone else noticed this with topper

i know the balls-ed up the marketing of the hurricane 59  

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Yeah,
Its been the same with many of their boats which have been great-boss,
Iso, Spice, Buzz, sport 14, even the byte. However, the boats which seem
to be marketed the best-the Topaz 'sailing system' the magno etc have
been rubish. I had the oppotunity to sail the magno over the summer and
it was rubbish-bad hull shape, bad fittings etc, which is why I wouldn't
ask them to build a youth formula skiff or whatever we're talking about!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hurricane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Dec 04 at 9:21pm

i belive the boss, Iso, Spice, Buzz, sport 14, even the byte to all be great designs if better than the laser and RS ones just badly marketed. even the topper build quality is better  (well white forumula who make them for topper)

has anyone else sailed the very rare sport 16 keel WOW wot a boat is such a pleasure to sail and very very quick for its size!!!

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Originally posted by laser ripper

I agree that the cherub is a good lightweights boat, but I think we need a
cheaper, one design class of simmilar attributes
Ideas?
NIk

Hold on a minute - how about making it about 2 feet longer, with orangey sails and calling it a 29er...oh, but you need to add the extra wire these days, shouldn't be too hard...

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The Iso was marketed exceptionaly well to the extent that instead of having a start for Asymetric handicap classes many events had starts for Isometric boats.

I have sailed the sport 16 and thought it probably the worst boat I have ever sailed it even made the sport 14 look good. Horrible to sail in and even worse to teach in and near imposable to right from a capsize

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i said keel!!!!! sport 16
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