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    Posted: 04 Jul 06 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by Rupert

If any boat has created more world and Olympic champs than the Oppi, it is the Cadet. You learn how to use 3 sails, it is possible to crew from very young, and then move to the back when you get bigger, and bring on another smaller kid as crew. While the boat may be slow, and competitive Cadet parents be almost in the Oppi league, it certainly teaches skills that are transferable to much bigger, faster boats, and has a very strong following round the world.

But, no bowsprit, so out of fashion...Imagine having to learn complicated skills like spinnaker handling, when you can just pull a piece of string and play a big jib...running, what's that?

Cue Cadet vs Mirror discussion:
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They may have seemed very different in the 60's, but these days they are both small pram bowed conventionally spinnakered boats suitable for young people...

The discussion now is between slow old junior classes v's not quite so slow new junior classes. Personally, I like the Cadet, Mirror and Feva. The Feva has different things to offer, but by that reckoning the older boats have things the feva cannot give, the most obvious being a symmetric spinnaker, but also a different feel to it all.

 
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feva all the way, I sailed one on sunday and was very impressed

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Sorry, U were impessed by a feva? The only time i was impressed with a cover was when id finished packing it away
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for the type of boat it is and the sail area it sails very well. fevas are not rubbish just because they're plastic, of course there are faster boats around but the feva isnt meant to be a scary and challenging boat to sail. it is a youth class and therefore should be sailed by young people so it needs to be controlable.
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I was a youth when i first sailed one and i still wasnt impressed lol 
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wot were you sailing at the time?
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For the market the Feva is aimed at it ticks most if not all of the boxes. It is not to everyones taste however. I do feel that the RYA should place more emphasis on symmetrical spinnakers though. Sailing an assymetric by comparison is easier to learn than a symmetric.

Just my opinion, I do not think much to most of the RYA ideas though (hence why I am not an individual member).

I appreciate they do a lot of work for sailing in the UK but their direction can be somewhat misplaced more often than it is not.

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Playing devils Advocaat here but why, when no new boats (that I can think of) are being designed with symmetric spinnakers is it so important to teach people to use them? I mean they don't teach double de-clutching when learning to drive any more even if some vehicles still need it.
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