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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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49er serene?????????? (is it my boat that is just psychotic then) |
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pro wannabe ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 84 |
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i think that its not best skiff its skiffs are the best types of dinghie! i like my 29er but 12's look great!
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Your spinni aint as big as your mouth!
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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all the skiffs in this country are cool and anyone can sail them!!
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International 14 1503
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Well sereen in a 3 - I've not tried one in a 5 where I can imagine they are a bit of a handful!
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jimmywalsh2 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 08 Oct 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
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If everybody comes in after sailing with a story and a smile that is a sign of a good skiff class. I've sailed 12 14 and 18's and they are all different. The Grand Prix 18's were awsome, upwind nothing came close but your were a bit removed from the action being out on the wings, I don't think the current 18's are as good but there are more of them The 14 was great upwind, even better now, but boring downwind, but I gather better now than before The 12 is not so much fun upwind but nothing comes close to it downwind, not speedwise but fun and technique testing. Try gybing in 30 knots and big waves with a 300sqft kite You will find though most real skiff classes as compared to the SMOD have people that have sailed them for 20-30 years, as the sign of a skiff is that the boats are always evolving and the 12 I sailed 20 years ago is nothing like what I am sailing now. |
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5420 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622 |
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the only problem with a skiff is the helm dose nothing all he dose is stears
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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The helm (me on our boat) has to control the jib, consider the tactics, evaluate the rig settings for the boat relevant to the way she feels, control both main and jib downwind whilst steering the relevant course.... and basically the helming part of the boat keeps her up-right and fast. You need to do a lot to keep the boat going fast, but you do get lazy helms but in proportion, they don't go as fast. The misconception is that on a skiff, the crew DOES do a lot of work but at the same time, the helm is doing a lot too. Just because the crew swaps the jib for the main, doesn't automatically mean the helm does less. Remember, skiffs are more responsive boats and demand much more skill from a helm than a conventional boat. From my point of veiw, the skiff duties are 50/50, because one part of the team being innaffective, drastically affects the performance of the boat. I put as much effort into crewing a boat as I do helming, but the roles are different. Maybe its down to the individual effort you put into sailing from your point of veiw.
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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I'd agree with that.
One of the big reasons the crew takes a load more work off the Helm is because the dam thing is going so fast that that any slight wobble in your course has a massive effect on getting wet or not. It also get's pretty complicated when twin wiring if the crew hasn't got the sheet for the poor old bugger at the back. :-) |
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lemeouttahere ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 94 |
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the helm has a lot of mental work to do whereas the crews role is more a physical one. its like a light wind race is ofter more exausting than when its blowing old boots. |
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5420 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622 |
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yer i thick i profer crewing
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