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    Posted: 01 Mar 05 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Blobby


And if you are telling me you want to be competitive (top 5 at the nationals type stuff) in an OD class and would not upgrade anything on the boat over the same period I don't think I or anyone else would believe you...


So don't let the development bit put you off joining a great class.



The current Cherub national champion was using a mainsail for it's sixth nationals, and jib and kite doing their third - so the sails last a long time (If you've got a fast boat!)
And runner up - mainsail and kite 5 nationals, jib 2 or 3.

Experience helps too - the champ first started cherubing in 1974!
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yer go for it!!!  tell use how it goe when you do get the boat on the water!!!!
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I've recently become a member of the Cherub crew as i picked up my new boat yesterday! It's 'Taking Liberties' 2643 and of bistro design. I know it's not the newest boat out there but it's going to be undergoing a bit of a facelift over the next few months with snout, extended gunwhales, 97 rules kite and jib, and 2nd wire.Would like to bring it up to the very latest rule changes but being a student i don't really think that i can afford that!

Can't wait to get it out on the water on wednsday to see how she goes! 
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Put it this way, No. (12 ft skiffs and R-class are development classes too by the way).

UK CHerubs the leading designs over the last 7 years have been the Paterson 7, the Slug and the Butt Plug.  These boats were all designed in 1997 / 8 or so. Prior to that the leading design was the Italian Bistro - again for about 7 years or so.

So if you get into the class with a second hand boat to learn to sail them, and then do a single upgrade to one of the newest designs then you will probably not have to upgrade for 5 to 8 years or so.

And if you are telling me you want to be competitive (top 5 at the nationals type stuff) in an OD class and would not upgrade anything on the boat over the same period I don't think I or anyone else would believe you...

So don't let the development bit put you off joining a great class.
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thanks blooby i'll have a look! but arent cherubes a development? so ill have to keep up grading?
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Originally posted by pro wannabe

What country are 12's from i've never seen any in the uk! me and my mate have a 29er and want to upgrade! is this the right way to go? and what sort of price range are they?

if they arent in the uk should i try a 49er? and finally does any one have the full spec on them sail area, no of trapeze ,beam etc.?

12' skiffs are from Aus & New Zealand as are R-class skiffs.

If you want to upgrade from a 29er to a twin wire boat you should seriously consider a UK Cherub.  The rules have just been changed to increase white sails to 15.5m2 and kites to 21m2.  RMW are building off the shelf boats and will be on display at the Dinghy Show I believe.
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The 12f oot skiff comes from New Zealand i think and there is no specific number of trapeze or anything like that because it is a developement class which means you change the boat to your spec................
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by the way im not in america my sis completed my form and was in a bad mood!
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What country are 12's from i've never seen any in the uk! me and my mate have a 29er and want to upgrade! is this the right way to go? and what sort of price range are they?

if they arent in the uk should i try a 49er? and finally does any one have the full spec on them sail area, no of trapeze ,beam etc.?
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Originally posted by Blobby

One difference between R's and cherubs though is the fact that R's come from a very windy country and UK Cherubs don't on the whole, so the R's whilst having about the same white sail area spend much more time fully powered...


The Uk wind is surprisingly light on average, so maybe the current UK cherubs with flat hulls will still have a speed advantage over the ( easier to sail ) shapes with more round or rise of floor - and perhaps be even faster relatively in non-overpowered conditions.
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