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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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Indeed. Skiffs just bounce around overtaking them. |
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Smight at BBSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 07 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1129 |
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I took my 200 crew out in my 12 in about a force four. I was having great fun blasting about untill he "i'm bored" I now know why the lasers sailors are angry. They enjoy sailing their lasers but not for the same reasons as cherub sailors like sailing cherub's or musto sailors like sailing mustos etc I was so pi***d of with my crew i sailed us in right then and there.
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simsy ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 158 |
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There is so much macho bullsh*t in this forum it's ridiculous. Its all "my boat's faster and bigger than yours, therefore i'm better then you". It's petty and silly, and i'm amazed at how the original question asked, has lead to all this twoddle.
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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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giraffe ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 148 |
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go for it. sailing a fast boat has a lot of things that make it easier - a slow bicycle race is difficult. however the crashes tend to be more frequent and bigger in a skiff. if you have the enthusiasm and the time then you can go straight for a skiff or a skiff style boat, particularly if you already understand the rudiments of what you are trying to do. hope it works out for you. |
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chrisjc123 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Mar 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
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well back the the original topic get a vortex for a few seasons, thats what im doing ive just started in it im loving it it is very different to what ive sailed before (fireball 420, laser) it is very forgiving so you wont swim alot unlike other boats, its a great way to learn to helm from the wire. as some of the vortex guys are doing are now moving into more "skiff" like boats for a different challange.
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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Lighter people can get out on the wire sooner and then get their weight forward. Sinking the stern is fairly easy on a Vortex and with all the shrouds and lowers and non-adjustable tiller, it's awkward for taller and heavier people to get suitably far forward while inboard. The mainsail is also very easy to depower and the top of the mast is tapered so it's quite whippy anyway. You can tighten the lowers to get max power but it's still a lighter person's boat. Don't know about 12 stone being the max. Hector's nearer 10 stone. |
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I WISH!! Maybe 20 years ago. Actually Hector fluctuates between 11.2 to 11.5st and Phil Whitehead (the acknowledged fastest in the fleet) is 12.5st. Jonathan Lister won the last open and he's 11.5st. Angus was within 2 points of winning and he's nearer 15st! That said, I reckon that you can sail a Vortex competetively with as little as 10st and up to 13st. Of course in a blow the 14st+ guys are fast but inevitably they struggle a little in the lighter airs. Equally someone in the mid range will be most competative over the widest wind range - ooooh that would be someone my weight then! Edited by Hector |
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I sailed Lasers for 15years and never got bored. I did get fit, learnt masses about tactics, boat speed, boat handling and big fleets, made lifelong freinds and generally had a great time. I did do other things in amongst and eventually took on another challenge that demanded all my spare sailing time. Even now I occasionally think about doing another Laser event - World masters In Australia in February sounds good! Turnturtles comment together with Simsy's sum it up perfectly for me. EDIT Worth mentioning that both Sten and Ian Trotter were on the same Northern Laser circuit as me - seems it was a pretty good foundation for their Skiff sailing 'careers'. Edited by Hector |
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Chas 505 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 119 |
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crew a flying fifteen for a season or two, and take every opportunity to trial other classes as you can. That will probably give you a decent basic level of skill to determine just how much adrenaline you want to expend. Avoiding the embarrassment of getting rescued week in, week out is worth a fair premium...! |
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Work Hard; Play Hard; Sail a 505 |
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