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lostatsea
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Topic: Selecting a new DinghyPosted: 26 Jul 06 at 6:27pm |
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Why Ospreys?. Isn't this a wooden boat? not that I have anything against wood but I would really like to keep the maintainance to a minimum and I thought either GRP or plastic was much better in this respect. My shortlist of dinghies so far (although its not that short!) is RS400, 505, Laser 3000, and mayde the 470 or Buzz. Any reason why the Osprey would be better than these?
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lostatsea
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Posted: 26 Jul 06 at 6:48pm |
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As we generally intend to be sailing at sea is it better to have a bigger (maybe heavier) dinghy to punch through the waves better ?. I have only sailed the LAser 2 on a river so how would its performance be effected in the rougher sea conditions.
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Hobbo
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Posted: 26 Jul 06 at 11:56pm |
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Ospreys come in both GRP and wood, with the newer MK4 design being manufactured in GRP (well foam sandwhich i think). Older plastic boats do have some troubles compared to the wood boats and i believe the old wood boats last better (?) but the new boats are set to last longer.
Osprey's are fantastic seaboats, like a lot of the older boats seem to be - i have heard it touted as the ultimate sea dinghy and would be fantastic for you to take on a sea as they are extremely stable compared to a lot of boats and have good wave punching ability. (People feel free to correct me as some of what i have said is based from memory and may be utter bollocks although i believe i am right ) |
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BigFatStan
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Posted: 27 Jul 06 at 8:23am |
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No, you more or less have that right Hobbo!
Older GRP boats tend not to last as well but there are still some good ones out there, especially for a developing sailor. Wooden boats are a bit of a liability on the maintenance front but the pride of ownership overcomes that for some people... however, I am getting my new glass boat this month to replace the wooden one! A key point about Ospreys is that they carry weight well - I regularly race one with over 32 stone in it and occasionally a lot more! They handle the sea extremely well and very forgiving while still being very quick. Love em, biased, can't help it... but still think it would be a good boat for you! |
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Pierre
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Posted: 27 Jul 06 at 9:29am |
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And believe me Stan knows a thing or two. Just my biased opinion of course
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jeffers
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Posted: 27 Jul 06 at 9:56am |
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May I humbly suggest the Scorpion.
2 person hiking dinghy, very sea worthy (designed to be sailing on the south coast in those lovely waves). Pretty good weight carrying capacity and well enough behaved, fast too. Come in both plastic and wood (but if going for plastic buy one of the new Ovi foam sandwich boats). Just my 2p... Paul |
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BigFatStan
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Posted: 27 Jul 06 at 2:21pm |
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Yup, Scorps are good too - kinda like a small Osprey...
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combat wombat
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Posted: 27 Jul 06 at 10:35pm |
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Gotta be an Osprey or an RS400.
Anything else probably won't handle the weight or be too complex. I'd suggest a B14 as the fastest "body swung" dinghy in existence, but after level 2 its probably not advisable, unless you can bag 30m2 of kite! I moved from an LII into a B14 and it damn near killed me. Your weight is perfect for one though and they do come cheap, prob the best bang for buck around. If you're confident with your boat handling it might be an idea. |
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lostatsea
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Posted: 27 Jul 06 at 10:39pm |
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Thanks for the suggestions. The trouble is there doesn't seem to be many of these types of dinghies for sale secondhand, especially the foam sandwich construction ones you mention. Seems to be a much better choice of RS400 and Laser 3000. We are about to do our spinaker course, it looks like the asymetrical spinnakers are much easier to handle than swinging the symetrical pole about. Can anyone suggest which which type is probably the best.
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Hobbo
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Posted: 28 Jul 06 at 12:13am |
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This could open a can of worms...
Having used both types (moved from 400's last year to Ospreys this year) the symmetric is probably easier to hoist and fly well than a symmetrical for a beginner. However both have their nuances and hoisting/flying well is going to require practice in both boats - the spinnaker course should hopefully show you both types and give you an idea of what you like. I believe Asays are harder to helm downwind due to the helm having to find the speed vs pointing balance as they can't run ( i believe the 505's now go downwind like this due to their mahoosive kite??) whereas symmetrical boats can run dead downwind. Try the spinnaker course, see which system you prefer and try all the boats out too, i can vouch for Ospreys and 400s being great fun in the right conditions, my only experience of a 3k being one of very limited vision due to the amount of spray being kicked up. I'd have thought you may have wanted a 4k over a 3k as they are bigger? And the reason you wont find any foam sandwhich Ospreys for sale is that they are brand new so there wont be many up for 2nd hand sale for a while, the old glass boats are good enough to learn in and still great fun to sail (been sailing the glass boat dad had built when i was bout to be born, 17 years ago yesterday, until our new boat arrived a couple of weeks ago and she still went beautifully). Wood boats might still be worth a look but you'd have to ask some others (Pierre, Stan?) whether they are a hassle to maintain. Edited by Hobbo |
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