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    Posted: 04 Aug 05 at 2:47pm

Historics racing today on Sydney Harbour

 

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What did I say?  Just look at those beauties.  You can still see the rowlocks on them.
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History of Austalian 12' Skiff

http://www.skiff.org.au/history.htm

Below are classic 12' skiffs

History of Austalian 16' Skiff

http://www.manlyskiff.com.au/aust16hist.htm

History of Austalian 18' Skiff

http://www.18footers.com.au/af/historical.asp

Below are some classic 18s

 

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Originally posted by Blobby

Except that clearly the 49er traces its lineage back to the Prime 18 footer...is that not a direct route back to the original?

 

Pity then its not 18 feet long 26 feet wide with unlimited sail area like the "Prime". Make that "one design" and then you could trace it back.

Its like saying a Mirror is a development of a Heron, similar yet different.
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Sorry Granite, I was just getting skiff oriented.  You are right.

or the answer could be yes.

 
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Originally posted by Pierre

Originally posted by Granite

Appart from the canoe's all small sailing dinghy's can be traced back as developments to either work boat's or fishing boats.

I expect they can, but not to Thames Skiffs.

and Thames Skiffs are relevent because they are?
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Originally posted by Granite

Appart from the canoe's all small sailing dinghy's can be traced back as developments to either work boat's or fishing boats.

I expect they can, but not to Thames Skiffs.
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Appart from the canoe's all small sailing dinghy's can be traced back as developments to either work boat's or fishing boats.
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Except that clearly the 49er traces its lineage back to the Prime 18 footer...is that not a direct route back to the original?

 
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Originally posted by Skiffe

Originally posted by Pierre

Skif/skiff/n. A rowing boat or sculling boat, of wood; that can be propelled by one person (single), or two (doubles), rowing one pair of oars (blades) per person. Can be used for leisure outings and for competitive racing.

Appeared on the Thames over 150 years ago.

I think that about does it.  Thankyou and good night

If so then ALL SAILING boats are not skiffs but also still says that 49er etc is STILL NOT A SKIFF.

The Australian Skiffs were descended from" work boats" payed per load, that started out by being rowed. These were then converted to sailing boats to the skiff as seen today. So using your definition no we are not skiffs without the above knowledge , However we are a development of them, therefore a true skiff.

Using this development then a sailing boat whose design can be DIRECTLY traced back to your definition of a skiff then must be a skiff

 

Yup I think that pretty much sums it all up.  The history is the same, with Thames Skiffs deriving from the Thames Wherry work boats.

Well done Skiffie, I'm with you on this one mate.

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