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    Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by timnoyce

I have to re-secure the Main Sail Track back onto the mast as the rivets have gone at the top and bottom. We tied the sail tight against the mast to stop it delaminating further but that really needs to be fixed permanently.

Tin mast or plastic? Always worth avoiding rivetting to plastic even if someone else has done it. Sikaflex is good for dissimilar materials onto plastic tubes. If tin just rivet again of course.
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Need to install a second set of spreaders on the mast in preparation for the mast head kite and i don't know if i trust the single set up in heavy wind!

You can run a kite halyard quite high above the hounds with single spreaders provided that you are disciplined about keeping a reasonable amount of kicker on and not letting the mainsheet off too far downhill. Not masthead though! This pic shows the setup on my old tin mast which never gave a moments worry, but your hounds will be (rightly) lower than those were, so you need to allow for that.


Originally posted by timnoyce

Hull needs some work as there are some dings which look like they might be taking water, and it also needs a complete respray due to the shocking paint job at the mo and it's also thin in places.

Paint is suprisingly heavy. You need to make sure you are taking all unnecessary paint off before adding more especially if there are a lot of layers. Plus getting the main surface back to the undercoat can save a lot of minor fairing on scratches. I'm a fan of random orbital sanders for heavy paint removal, but also invest in serious dustmasks!

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thats a fair bit of work make sure you do a prooper job of it though

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well i've decided to split up the list into "essentials" and "luxuries" so that i don't waste my time!

In the essentials list...

i have to re-secure the Main Sail Track back onto the mast as the rivets have gone at the top and bottom. We tied the sail tight against the mast to stop it delaminating further but that really needs to be fixed permanently.

Need to install a second set of spreaders on the mast in preparation for the mast head kite and i don't know if i trust the single set up in heavy wind!

Hull needs some work as there are some dings which look like they might be taking water, and it also needs a complete respray due to the shocking paint job at the mo and it's also thin in places.

Luxuries list...

Need to build a snout for the new jib.

Build new foils as the current ones seem very square! Also the rudder is fixed so am going to build a daggerboard style.

Twin wire and twin tiller extensions.

Extend gunwhales out level with the gantry.

..... thats it at the moment but it should keep me busy!!

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Originally posted by timnoyce

I think that I will have to wait before i buy new foot straps as at the moment they would be fine but the boat would fall apart around them! Stage 1 of the overhaul is happening over easter and then we're gonna try and have the rest done by the nationals. In between times I have got to try and learn to sail it and not fail my uni course...... gonna be fun

Who needs sleep anyway?

What needs done on the boat or is it too long a list for a keyboard to survive?
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I think that I will have to wait before i buy new foot straps as at the moment they would be fine but the boat would fall apart around them! Stage 1 of the overhaul is happening over easter and then we're gonna try and have the rest done by the nationals. In between times I have got to try and learn to sail it and not fail my uni course...... gonna be fun
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Glad to hear it was a success Tim! If you do want some 'seat-belts' I can recomend 'Sh-ock' foot-loops, made by Simon Hiscocks. They have completely revolutionized our ability to stay glued to the boat off wind. http://www.ruleone.co.uk/
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Reporting back after taking the cherub out for her maiden voyage (well with me at the helm anyway!). Was blowing 20knots with squalls of much more, combine that with snow showers you've got yourself perfect conditions! Took a while to get used to what was going on as things happen much quicker in a cherub than a laser 2!! Got her upwind and then bore away onto a reach. Think it needs some seat belts installed as boy does she fly! Not been that scared/excited since the first time i trapezed years ago!

Need to do some modifications and repair work before she sets sail again but it was all worth it!
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The fast Cherubs tend to stay fast for a few years below is a table showing the top boats of the past 25 years in terms of nationals wins

Sail No   Name                Design            Wins Runner Up Appearances
2637     Norwegian Blue   Italian Bistro    5           ; 4                  11
2705     Flat Stanley        Mod. Murray    5           ; 3                  15
2660     Pasta Frenzy      Pasta Frenzy   4           ; 2                   9
2676     Shiny Beast        Paterson  7     4              1                   6

Both the Bistro and the Patterson 7 designs have managed to fill the top three places at a single nationals, the Bistro in 1991 and the P7 in 2004

The average number of nationals that a boat does is 3.88, Five boats have clocked up more than 10 nationals, 26 boats have managed five or more and 17 boats did not like the heat of competition and have only done the one!

 

 
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Originally posted by I luv Wight

Experience helps too - the champ first started cherubing in 1974!

As indeed did the crew/owner of the boat that won the handicap competition for older boats. And the previous year's inlands was won outright(admittedly in very unusual conditions) by the same 14 year old boat featuring the same antiquated forward hand:-)
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Now you're showing your age Andy!
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