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    Posted: 11 Oct 05 at 4:44pm

perhaps we'd see such an event evolving from the scottish single handed champs if we ran it a bit closer to th border, often it is the distance to travel that exclude competitors from an event, if we made it much more accesible then the numbers would surely grow... A big central fast handicap single handed event would be excellent, if it was to be un with reaching courses for the single sails and windward leeward for the asy. boats then it would be great you could start with 2 starts one for each course and just run off of handicaps. Yes the idea needs tweaking but it doesnt sound too complicated.

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It would take some foiling Moth to get your lardy .... airbourne !

Steel foils so they dont break,alot of wind and a tow in start off the rescue boat  it would be still fun to try.

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I would suggest single handed Asy boats instead of Skiff's - we cats are doing similar angled downhill

We'd love to come and play with our cats with you guys.  We know we'll get stuffed when it's light (Till I get my new boat anyway ) but it would be fun.

If I had the time I'd do the Asy slalom at Grafham in Nov.  

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Hey, Sten:

It would take some foiling Moth to get your lardy .... airbourne !

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Hi All:

The Scottish Singlehanded Champs is a good novelty event and it's great fun - but there is such a wide range of boats that the result is determined more by the weather conditions and the course set by the race officer, rather than the best sailor. I've sailed in it for many years and I won it this year in a Musto Skiff - but if the wind had been a touch stronger, or if the reaches had been a little tighter I'd not have been able to hold my kite around the course, and I'd have been wasting my time .

You get much more meaningful racing by combining similar types of boats - and for the Musto Skiff/ RS700 that means other fast asymmetric 'Skiffs' - such as Int 14s/ 49ers/ RS800s/ Laser 4000s/ 29ers/ etc (don't be offended if I've missed your class!). All these classes want to sail similar windward/ leeward courses and the PY handicaps are relatively meaningful.

In Scotland we started 'Scottish Skiff Racing' this year, for exactly that reason - see our web site: http://www.scottishskiffracing.com - it's been very popular, with 64 skiffs competing in one or more of our 5 'Grand Prix' events. The results are on the web site, along with our definition of a 'Skiff'. We even managed to get an excellent sponsor for the series - Trident-UK: http://www.trident-uk.com. We also run skiff training events too.

There are other similar organisations in France and the Netherlands:

http://www.breizhskiff.com

http://www.skiffzeilen.nl

I'd recommend combining skiffs in preference to combining singlehanded classes - but no harm in both - it's all good fun!

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Its not a difinative list just some boats that might be interested?

I would like to sail in a big fleet like when I sailed lasers with 300 on one start line and a good party. but its proberbly not practical with different types of boats. May be it should be spilt into Assymetric inc cats if you want as they sail simular angles, Trapeze and hiking. Swapping boats sounds fun I would love a go in a moth but I think it would snap if it floated.

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Originally posted by Ian29937

A couple of us on the 700 committee have been discussing the idea of some form of top singlehanded skiff event for a while now.  The original idea was a sort of round robin including swapping boats, but we were struggling to know which classes we could include to make it fair.  700 / MPS / ICA  and possibly 600 / IC / Vario was about where my thinking was.

Is there any appetite for this type of event?

Ian

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I think the collaborative events such as the Assy Grand Prix and the Sym Grand Prix have done well; all you are really talking about is a Single Handed Grand Prix.

I think this could be interesting ...

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Originally posted by sten

Possible boats could be MPS,RS700,ICA,IC,Foiling Moths,RS600,Contenders,Phantom,Blaze?

How can you include the Contender, Phantom and Blaze, but specificaly miss out conventional moths? The foilers are certainly more comparable to the MPS etc but lowriders are by no means sluggish

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ian29937 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 05 at 1:21pm

A couple of us on the 700 committee have been discussing the idea of some form of top singlehanded skiff event for a while now.  The original idea was a sort of round robin including swapping boats, but we were struggling to know which classes we could include to make it fair.  700 / MPS / ICA  and possibly 600 / IC / Vario was about where my thinking was.

Is there any appetite for this type of event?

Ian

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pabs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 05 at 1:20pm

The Scottish have a similar event called the Scottish Single hander championship. The 300’s use it as part of there traveler series. I am sure who ever did it would get masses of boats as long as it is kept central

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