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    Posted: 02 Dec 10 at 11:34am
Originally posted by Neptune

- where as its against class rules in the 800

Why Not?  That's stupid, the best thing I learned sailing with young Dan in the real gusty stuff was to hand him the main sheet since he had more sense out on the wire of when the big gusts were coming in that round island race, from the moment we did that we were picking up places left and right until the frikking boom broke.


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I typed a long reply in teh quick reply box and it got lost - AGAIN!!!!
 
Basically the idea being to try and equalise any competitive advantage  evry experienced crews might have when it gets hairy.  Its all to do with how the class markets its self as an accessible twin trap boat i suppose
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Originally posted by Neptune

presumably the crew in a B14 is allowed to play the main - where as its against class rules in the 800


I suppose you can do in the B14 but no one does, all the helms take the main.
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you need to trim the jib constantly in any winds to keep the boat driving, so the crew is kept busy,
my crew is normally dieing after a windy race,
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Originally posted by tgruitt

I suppose you can do in the B14 but no one does, all the helms take the main.

Even the Australians? If so that does suprise me.
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Yup, the aussie helms do the main. The French swap sheets- but they swap back for tacking. This is slow and obvious, but they've shown some good (but not world-beating yet) speed.
It's a pretty big jib without a self tacker. it rewards being played up wind. Also, the crew can play the kicker and cunningham- the really quick teams are constantly adjusting them as they move through the gears.
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I can't say i love the 800, its really 29er vs B14. Which is more difficult (to do club racing in), and then the controversial question: which is more fun to sail? Assuming that i have a regular crew, which i'm sure i can manage. Even if it ends up being my dad...
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the b14 isnt brilliant at club racing, due to the shape of the kite
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 there are different cuts of kite, we have a flatter one RS-02 which is designed for round the cans,
this makes it nice and easy to sail
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Is the issue that there's too much depth in the standard kite, so it can't point high enough to make the mark? Also, how well does the boat deal with chop?
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It's great at dealing with ugly stupid helm & crews..
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