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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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A new Laser is circa £4k or more these days.
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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Back in that particular day, (late seventies)a Laser cost around six hundred quid to a board completes four seventyfive or there about. Petrol was just nudging £1 per gallon (Why I gave up burning several gallons an hour powerboat racing)
Now a board complete of way better standard can still be purchased sub £1000, £899 if you're lame and like Fanatic whereas a Laser, what's that in todays money? I bet it's a couple of grand or more. Very much a case of Less is more.. I think I'll go look it up, see just what they charge for a brand new Laser which aint that much different to the way it was back then.
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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But the days when a comparitively rather cheaper board class could pull that sort of entry have long since passed.
Actually (and we're going a bit off topic) at todays prices, what is the value of one those boards (or its current equivalent) brand new? Is it more than £1350?
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ham4sand ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Jul 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 452 |
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shut up ;)
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John Hamilton
cherub 2645 - cheese before bedtime cherub 3209 - anatidaephobia laser 176847 - kiss this |
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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500 is massive, 74 is average...
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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In terms of adult single handers, it was beaten only by the Slowlo and the Phantom- two classes that have been around a lot longer. It was in the top ten of all adult classes. the next adult monohull with a trapeze was the Fireball on 47 boats.
bottom line? 74 is massive. Edited by alstorer - 29 Nov 10 at 1:18pm |
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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Only 74 Entries?
After being in production how long? With unbelievable sex appeal for a dinghy, a brilliant builder, a superb class, some fantastic coverage, imagine how many entries there could have been had it been possible to use by anyone.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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74 entries to the Nationals suggests a fair few people have mastered the boat where they can get round the course most of the time... An astonishing turnout for what is a pretty extreme boat.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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Hmm I'm inclined to disagree with you there old chum. Not from my own experience which granted were a bit foolhardy given I'd never sailed a dinghy before, but from the Guy who loaned it me, of similar weight, owned two of them one he kept in Barbados.
Surprisingly It's easier to right than the jolly old RS100 and I recall no less than 18 capsize and recoverys in one race, back a couple of years ago when I was a lot more fitter than I am these days. (After about 6 I tend to chuck in the towel). But even when I'd mastered getting on the wire on my good tack, in anything greater than a force three, in which I was laying out parallel to the water getting beaten by every wave, every tack was straight to irons. The MPS was/is another clear hyped boat continued by a few who themsleves find it uncontrollable once they're own wind weight barrier is attained precious few of which appear to be in control above force five. Don't get me wrong, it can be done, but the 'doers' better be bulky and they better have had at the very least some Olympic squaddy experience. I often wonder if in another life had I had the time wether I could have mastered it, but then you just add up the physics of it all, and I'm a lot more experienced now than I was back then and I still don't think the way it's set up the rack widths set as they are (And i know this was the big gripe my chum had with the class who at the time didn't want it to be particularly lightweight friendly) It's no boat for anyone under 70 kgs. Then again, I'm beginning to wonder if such a boat exists, well, fast, modern and friendly that is.
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Menace ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 296 |
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I've sailed against some relatively small people in Mustos, in around 50-65kg weight range and they seem to cope really well for the boat being advised at +70kg weight range, Mrs. Stenhouse is the first that springs to mind. If you've got the right technique for righting the boat, a slight lack of weight iisn't an issue, seen 60kg right a 49er so doubt very much that an MPS would be that difficult.
PLEASE BEAR IN MIND, CHEAPER ISN'T BETTER!
I'd strongly advise as James says, to try all boats before coming to a decision. My opinion is that the MPS is a much better boat than any of the RS's by a country mile. The strength of the MPS class association and resale value strongly reflects this. From what I know of the MPS and the 700, is that on the face of it the 700 seems easier to sail, until you sail it, then you find the 700 is a less refined boat, slightly more over-powered and not as easy to get the most out of.
This is just my opinion, don't buy a boat based on forum advice, make the decision based upon what you like, as I know my opinion varies much from others on this forum and therefore, you'll be getting much different views, which one is right is really down to you.
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