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    Posted: 17 May 10 at 11:36am
Originally posted by MattK

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Originally posted by bornskiffyish

[QUOTE=Norbert]The
original GRP Enterprises were know as 404s before they were class
accepted. About number 12,000 c. 1970. The Logo was similar to a
Flying Fifteen except it had a 404 in it. God i'm old!
dont think
your quite right there, the two hull shapes are very different


What's hull shape got to do with Logo's on sails?



Nothing to do with the logo

The difference in hull shape suggests they aren't versions of the same
design!

http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/boats/dinghy/404/[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure what the boat on the Noble website is, but I'm 95% sure the original glass Ents were called 404's.

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The 4o4 was a super-LARK - the same hull as a LARK with a updated deck and rig.  Built by Parkers ( LARK builder at the time ).
It was designed for the 'youth boat trials'  ~ 1990? - the selected boat was the Hobie 4o5.

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The 5000 was at some point the Warsash 5000. It was designed and tested there before laser took over.
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The corrolary of this topic would be how often the same name has been used for different classes...

I know of three varieties of Javelin worldwide, and two Cherubs. There must be others : suggestions?

Two 404s in the UK, albeit in different decades is the only example that immediately springs to mind of the same name being used for different classes in the same country, but I bet there are more, especially if you added low production run cruisers to the list.
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I'm fairly sure the original glass Ents were 404s. There may have been another 404, as well.
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Originally posted by allic



I'm sure most of the RS400 owners will have noticed the "Gemini II,
designed by Phil Morrison" plate under the foredeck. I can only assume
that Gemini II is the name PM gave to the design before licensing it to RS.
Can someone from RS confirm the history here? 

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Going back to the original question... When we first developed the RS400 with Phil Morrison and Spud Rowsell the future of RS was completely unknown so, as we (RS) owned our brand name they felt it prudent to have a seperate name on the design agreement in case RS "failed" and they wanted to carry on with the class.

Same applied with the RS200 a couple of years later. Since then the situation has become more relaxed and only the RS names appear on the agreements!
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Interesting stuff especially about the Dorothy.

I was thinking about posting a recipricol topic - should any exisitng classes change their name to something that better describes the boat.  However i've been told only trouble lies in that direction!

 

 
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The Spark became the Dart 15 and is now known as a Sprint 15.

 
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Of course, to get really nerdy about name changes, I could point out that the Merlin Rocket was originally the Merlin, and amalgamated with the Rocket class.

The O'pen Bic is an interesting name. Please tell me it isn't just a terrible pun about ballpoints...
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I think it IS just a terrible pun about ballpoints. It is after all the same company as the surfboard razor and pen manufacturer.
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