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    Posted: 15 Apr 09 at 1:21pm
As a hayfever sufferer, I found that the homeopathic tablets worked OK, so long as you were taking them regularly. However, one a day tablets from Lloyds chemists seem to work rather better, so it makes more sense to me to use them. However, sweeping statements about how something that has been around for a long, long time and worked for many people, my family included, doesn't really help anyone at all, does it? While forsaking modern medicine in favour of homeopathy would be, in my opinion, rather foolish, there is room for both.
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Like any other placebo, homeopathic remedies may well have an effect if you believe in them. The thing is you never know what would have happened if you hadn't taken them. Bodies recover from many ailments on their own. At least, unlike "herbal remedies" which actually contain active ingredients, homeopathic drugs won't do you any harm or interact badly with real medicine, so taking them is something of a no lose option if you don't mind shelling out the cash.

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i keep bees so, i get free honey.

Its great for andrew (dumberer) who suffers during the summer.

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Originally posted by JimC

Like any other placebo, homeopathic remedies may well have an effect if you believe in them. The thing is you never know what would have happened if you hadn't taken them. Bodies recover from many ailments on their own. At least, unlike "herbal remedies" which actually contain active ingredients, homeopathic drugs won't do you any harm or interact badly with real medicine, so taking them is something of a no lose option if you don't mind shelling out the cash.

I'm not really a "believer" in them, and I'm not sure hayfever is all that receptive to mind games, either, but they worked for me in that case. As for "herbal Remidies", many modern medicines contain the same chemicals that plants used for treating illness have. Doesn't mean I'm going to use them - I like my medicine easy to swallow and more likely to work - but dismissing them out of hand is a very narrow view point.

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Originally posted by Rupert

I'm not sure hayfever is all that receptive to mind games,

My understanding is that research is suggesting that even something as physical as the healing rate of a broken bone will vary with mental state...
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Originally posted by Rupert


I'm not really a "believer" in them, and I'm not sure hayfever is all that receptive to mind games, either, but they worked for me in that case. As for "herbal Remidies", many modern medicines contain the same chemicals that plants used for treating illness have. Doesn't mean I'm going to use them - I like my medicine easy to swallow and more likely to work - but dismissing them out of hand is a very narrow view point.


The difference between modern medicines and their herbal antecedents though, is control. Take Aspirin, for example. Derived from tree bark. But in tree bark, it's of varying concentration. In synthetic pill form, the dose has been determined and controlled.

Any herbal remedies that are worth a damn will be researched- by a combination of academia and/or business. The ones that actually work well, get turned into drugs.

And the "placebo effect" is far wierder than you think. Far, far wierder. Far more powerful too.
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Originally posted by Rupert

As a hayfever sufferer, I found that the homeopathic tablets worked OK, so long as you were taking them regularly.  However, sweeping statements about how something that has been around for a long, long time and worked for many people, my family included, doesn't really help anyone at all, does it? While forsaking modern medicine in favour of homeopathy would be, in my opinion, rather foolish, there is room for both.

Really....wow, you expected a response and got one, well I never!

Forget anecdotal evidence, which is clouded by reversion to the norm, and tell me how Homeopathic remedies work when you have diluted any active ingredient out.  And I want proper science no bunkum will be tolerated!

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I normally suffer from hayfever quite badly but there are a couple of things that i found helped.

1) Piriton - if your sailing the adrenaline should get rid of the drowziness
2) DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE
3) DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE
4) Showers
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Originally posted by tack'ho

Originally posted by Rupert

As a hayfever sufferer, I found that the homeopathic tablets worked OK, so long as you were taking them regularly.  However, sweeping statements about how something that has been around for a long, long time and worked for many people, my family included, doesn't really help anyone at all, does it? While forsaking modern medicine in favour of homeopathy would be, in my opinion, rather foolish, there is room for both.

Really....wow, you expected a response and got one, well I never!

Forget anecdotal evidence, which is clouded by reversion to the norm, and tell me how Homeopathic remedies work when you have diluted any active ingredient out.  And I want proper science no bunkum will be tolerated!

I couldn't give you proper science about how most "proper" medicine works, and I doubt many people on this forum can. I am pretty much in the "mainly nonsense" camp when it comes to homeopathy, but I find the psudo scientific "won't believe it unless you can prove it" attitude just as hard to swallow. If something has worked, it has worked, whether you can replicate it or not. If someone feels better because (in this case) a non "modern" medicine has worked to alliviate hayfever, why should that get people all uppity and saying "it can't have done"?

OK, here is another one - Arnica tablets and cream alliviate bruising. True or false? A useful one for sailing, this, if true...

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OK, here is another one - Arnica tablets and cream alliviate bruising. True or false? A useful one for sailing, this, if true...


Mrs Webmuppet is a big fan of the Arnica Cream to help get shot of bruising - although she does admit that the act of rubbing in the cream may well help with dispersing the bruise itself,

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