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    Posted: 23 Feb 05 at 9:03pm
bit of a shame, but ud have never really got anyone to ensure it anyway
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I guess you'd get 3rd party insurance from somewhere, and just take the hit if you break something. If you go to the North American Moth site (I suspect there is a link from either the Y&Y Moth page or the UK moth site, you will see several pics of kited Moths, as the Yanks seem to have gone this route.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris Noble Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 05 at 11:19pm
thing is it cld very well be the next thing to happen to em, they got hydro foils, and the int canoe got a kite recently so itd make sense to develop that into the class.
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Originally posted by Rupert

you will see several pics of kited Moths, as the Yanks seem to have gone this route.



Well yes, but the yank Moths are thirty years behind in hulls shape...
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Can you imagine an averagely fat yank sailing a narrow Moth, let alone getting it up on foils?! More sail area was the only answer, really! The trouble I see is that the Moths pride themselves on keeping all developments within the class rules (not too difficult with a Moth!) but a kite would involve massive rule changes.
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Originally posted by Rupert

The trouble I see is that the Moths pride themselves on keeping all developments within the class rules (not too difficult with a Moth!) but a kite would involve massive rule changes.


Not really massive rule changes as starting a complete new class from scratch. All that might stay the same is the name. You could say the same was true of the 14s when they junked all the peculiar rules they had gathered over the years and merged with the AUS fleets. In that case the immediately obsolete existing fleet did at least provide a stepping stone of sorts.

Me, I think if you want to start a brand new class you should do so, and not break an existing one unless there are extraordinarily good reasons. I'd suggest that the 14 rule set pre amalgamation was good reason, but the that there would be no such case to destroy the current Moth class and create an entirely different boat in every respect.
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Looking at pics of Rohan hiked out on a broad reach with the boom in pretty much the same postion as on the beats, i think you'd need such a small, flat kite, that it would look more like a jib.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pro wannabe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:52pm
loks fun! my advice? Experiment!! its the only way that new classes come to be! my uncle in scotland bought a really bit wind surfer, shoved a mettal plate on it and put a laser2 mast, main and jib, an extra trapeze and a buzz aysemmi! and a sprit obviously! and yes he has got mental problems! (or i think so) anyway it goes like butter off a hot knife!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Calum_Reid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 10:02pm
Mr Veal rekons they sail with the main in further downwind than upwind because upwind they sail so free to get foiling and downwind, well they're going so bloody quick the wind is basicaly on the nose!
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cos of the apparent wind

 

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