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    Posted: 20 Sep 07 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Stuart O

I stand corrected they have indeed

So why have the RYA taken this bold step?



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Truth often isn't!!!!!!
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Does the RYA represent Sailing UK - - - no on the basis of excluding multihull classes. WE should be campaigning for two multihull classes at olympic level 2 hander and single hander. It might liven up the boring menu of single handers (apart from the 49er)

Perhaps we should campign for the dopping of the Royal tag if they are going to exclude us

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sprint Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 07 at 8:02am

 

Simon wrote:

"Does somoene know an appropiate email address to write to"

Yes - try

rod.carr(at)rya.org.uk

Bob



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Copy of e sent to Rod Car

 

 

Ref RYA Submission to ISAF 129-07
 
It has come to my attention that the RYA are seeking to remove catamaran racing from future  ISAF youth competition for reasons unknown to me .
 
Whatever these reasons may be I think you are letting down a large faction of Cat sailors in the UK , there has always been problems encouraging "youth" into cat sailing and this current submission by RYA UK certainly will be detrimental to an area of the sport so important to us.
 
This issue is causing great concern throughout UK cat sailors who through their clubs affiliation fees and in many cases personal memberships are funders of the RYA and as such it would be prudent to explain why such a large fraternity of UK sailing should be denied "Youth Developement "
 
I cannot personally see how as a UK cat sailor I could ever back the above proposal and implore that RYA UK reconsider this submission .
 
I will copy this e mail and any response I recieve into the Yachts and Yachting thread " Youth Sailing, the RYA and Catamarans " where I first learned of this issue .
 
 
Cheers


Mark Homer - disgruntled Cat Sailor
Stealth SXL Sail No GBR 106


if you recieved this e in error , best forget it .



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And here's mine!

Dear Rod

I have recently been made aware that the RYA have put forward a proposal to remove the multihull class from ISAF Youth sailing from 2009. Catamaran sailing plays a large part in the UK sailing scene and GBR's success in the youth area would appear to have been far greater than in its' monohull campaigns - despite far greater funding and support from the RYA for the monohulls.

I am not aware of any feedback being requested from my club (Thornbury) as to whether the RYA should be continuing to support the youth Cat scheme or indeed, of any feedback into the RYA suggesting the programme be stopped.

I would have thought that with the right support in place from the RYA that Catamaran sailing in the UK could go from strength to strength whereas what you appear to be suggesting would achieve quite the opposite. Are you suggesting that prospective Cat sailors would be better off learning in monohulls - the good old arguments of 'anyone can sail cats, 'cats are boring' and 'only do reaches' spring to mind formed from people who have never set foot on Spitfires, A Classes and F18's etc.

I would be grateful if you could explain the thinking behind this proposal so that myself and other members of the UK Cat community can better understand the RYA's position which appears to be at loggerheads with UK Cat sailors.

Regards, Adrian.

 

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could someone put Rod's email address on Catsailor too please (but perhaps as rod.carr(at)rya.org.uk to foil the spammers.....
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My email to Rod is below.

anyone else?


Dear Sir,

It has recently come to my attention that the RYA is proposing to drop its
support for Youth ISAF competition in the future.

As a personal member of the RYA, and a member through subscription of
my Sailing Club, I am extremely disappointed to hear this, and cannot
think of a single justification for this action. Believe me, i tried.

Youth catamaran sailing is as important as any other faction of sailing, be
it single handed, doule handed, dinghies or keel boats, male or female or
mixed. Catamarans are an integral part of UK sailing and an integral part
of our Nation's success Nationally and Internationally.

Catamaran sailing already faces huge threats from the popular 'skiff' style
monohulls. To reduce funding and support to youths at an
impressionable age is almost criminal.

As the former Secretary of the Scotland and North of England Catamaran
Class Association (SNECCA) and organiser of Scotland's largest ever
catamaran race (on Loch Ness in August of this year) I know only too well
how difficult it is to encourage younger sailors into the Sport. I also know
how much fun can be generated from catamaran sailing once you get into
it, and the adult participation confirms this.

Without youth support, we can forget the next crop of medals for
mulltihull sailors - maybe the RYA just couldn't care?

My personal funding of the RYA says that you SHOULD care.

yours

Chris Browning
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sprint Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 07 at 12:35pm

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

could someone put Rod's email address on Catsailor too please (but perhaps as rod.carr(at)rya.org.uk to foil the spammers.....

Good point Simon. I have edited the EMail address on my posting. Catmandoo needs to do the same.

Regards

Bob

PS I'm pleased that Rod is getting some mail. Well done guys.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 07 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Sprint Bob

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

could someone put Rod's email address on Catsailor too please (but perhaps as rod.carr(at)rya.org.uk to foil the spammers.....

Good point Simon. I have edited the EMail address on my posting. Catmandoo needs to do the same.

Regards

Bob

PS I'm pleased that Rod is getting some mail. Well done guys.

Bob,

 

Close, but not enough.  This forum software keeps the HTML behind the text and so the bots will still see the email address.  You need to delete the whole thing and re-add it.

 

Click your post and it still resolved the email address.



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