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    Posted: 28 Sep 06 at 2:03am
Originally posted by Guest#260

What I was saying is I'm not into the sort of media hype that is created around poor performance.

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Poor performance? You are kidding aren't you Rick. Scotts' was an excellent performance and well worthy of a report. Perhaps the main point here is that the event report from the Laser Class association did concentrate on the first few places http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=23454 That report presumably goes to all mags and websites worldwide.

The RYAs' report told us how the Brits did - and as I want to know about that I see nothing boring or wrong about the RYA providing Y&Y with just such a report.

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Originally posted by Guest#260

What I was saying is I'm not into the sort of media hype that is created around poor performance.

Rick

Poor performance? You are kidding aren't you Rick. Scotts' was an excellent performance and well worthy of a report. Perhaps the main point here is that the event report from the Laser Class association did concentrate on the first few places http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=23454 That report presumably goes to all mags and websites worldwide.

The RYAs' report told us how the Brits did - and as I want to know about that I see nothing boring or wrong about the RYA providing Y&Y with just such a report.

Hector - that is a complete misquote.

That comment was in reference to the media circus that followed Eddie the Eagle not the report on the laser worlds.

The result of Scott was excellent  - my comment was that reporting this Top Brit diminishes that results - I'd have said that reporting the actual result would have been more worthy.

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Apologies Rick - I do disagree with your first post so there was a little devilment in cherry picking that quote.

But you did bring Eddie the Eagle into the discussion as a 'classic case' (of media hype) which did seem to infer that the report on Scott (and others)  whilst not a 'classic case' was to some degree the same. 

Again,  there was an article from the Laser Association that was the 'worthy report' you wanted giving all the usual details of winners etc. So what is wrong with the RYA doing an extra report on how the Brits did? I think most of us want to know about the Brits performance.

RE Objectives - How do we know what Scotts objectives were and whether he acheived them? We're told objectives should be acheivable / realistic.  For Scott in this Championship a realistic objective could well have been a Top Ten result - which he acheived. His longer term objective may well be Olympic Gold / World Champion - but it would be unrealistic for that to be his target this year. Others may have underperformed against their objectives but I doubt if Scott did.

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Originally posted by Hector

Apologies Rick - I do disagree with your first post so there was a little devilment in cherry picking that quote.

Again,  there was an article from the Laser Association that was the 'worthy report' you wanted giving all the usual details of winners etc. So what is wrong with the RYA doing an extra report on how the Brits did? I think most of us want to know about the Brits performance.

Yes a report on the performance of the Brits is most interesting but I was not commenting on that rather the presentation - I'd have rather seen a headline like "Up and coming british youth achieves an excellent 7th at the Laser World Championships"

Putting the achievement in contect of the fleet rather than just saying he was the best brit - all the brits could have been at the back of the fleet ...

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Rick, the fact that you still remember Eddie the Eagle almost 20 years after his moment of fame indicates that anyone who sponsored him would probably have done very nicely out of it. Can you remember anyone else in the 1988 GBR Winter Olympics team (without cheating and looking them up)?
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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Rick, the fact that you still remember Eddie the Eagle almost 20 years after his moment of fame indicates that anyone who sponsored him would probably have done very nicely out of it. Can you remember anyone else in the 1988 GBR Winter Olympics team (without cheating and looking them up)?

Stefan,

If I walked into your family Christmas dinner and stood up on the table and took off all my cloths and danced a jig I am sure all those present would remember me for many years to come.

But ... would they remember me for values of which I could be proud and a sponsor would want be be connected with?

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PS Sorry for those who are now stuck with an unplesant mental image.

 

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We are not prudes, so you'd probably be remembered with humour and affection. As, for the most part, is Eddie.
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Originally posted by Guest#260

Stefan,

If I walked into your family Christmas dinner and stood up on the table and took off all my cloths and danced a jig I am sure all those present would remember me for many years to come.

I bet we could get Forum members to sponsor that!

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Originally posted by Hector

Originally posted by Guest#260

Stefan,

If I walked into your family Christmas dinner and stood up on the table and took off all my cloths and danced a jig I am sure all those present would remember me for many years to come.

I bet we could get Forum members to sponsor that!

I am not for hire ... sorry.

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