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    Posted: 16 Oct 06 at 8:45pm

Hi to all those considering buying a Solution..hope these few words will help you make the right decision.

I'm in my sixties, 6'2" and 13 stone, and sail on the sea, as opposed to a pond. My previous boats have been Nat12, Merlin Rocket, Hit, Phantom, and I'm awaiting delivery of a Solution.

My Phantom, was the best boat I have had, for sheer heart stopping thrills, unfortunately too many of the thrills saw me looking at the bottom of the boat! Anything over a F4, saw me struggling then swimming, which was a pity because those are the conditions I like for sailing. Then along comes the Solution..a Phantom that sailed into a brick wall..yes it's 2 foot shorter and a bit wider...but it has inherited the feel of the Phantom on the water without it biting your backside when you make a mistake.

I would  loved to have kept my Phantom, but had to admit, age, fitness (and yes  lack of skill) restricted my sailing to top F3 conditions.

I have now sailed one of the demo Solutions in top 4/5 conditions on several occasions and can assure you it, hits the spot, in terms of thrills. 

Yes, less demanding than the Phantom, but to sail it fast you still need to heave on the kicker as far as it will go, and a bit more,  and get your rear end over the side  going up wind; the reaches are just so much fun, (Ok most boats are), but this feels a bit like the Phantom, and the icing on the cake, the gybes at the end of the reach can be taken without heart in mouth. Having said that I have still managed to capsize...but getting it back up is (for me) so much easier compared to the Phantom. 

So if you want a boat with performance, still reasonably demanding, plenty of controls to play with, more fun than a Solo, don't want a trapeze, and a bit daunted by the Phantom, then this is the boat for you.

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Sounds good! The problem is there are thousands of Solos and Lasers out there. The idea of the Solution really appeals, but I want to race against other boats the same. Don't mean to sound negative, but the RS300 is the best boat I have ever sailed, and I am all too aware of the problems of trying to persuade other people to give something new a chance! I was RS300 class rep for a year, and I knew it was the best boat in the world, but there was a time I thought it would just die...

On a positive note, it didn't, and they are now slowly building, but it needs people willing to invest in the class. With the 300's a few stalwarts bought new boats, together with a bit of new blood, and suddenly they are in demand, and a few more people are going to events, they've had a good nationals, and there is a positive air about the class. If the right people buy the boat, and the builders keep the faith, they will do OK. There was a time I thought LDC had lost interest in the 300, but they didn't, despite precedents from Topper and Laser, and I now think you can have a lot more faith in LDC's products (see RS500 topics!)

 Anyhow, good luck to the Solution, I say- it looks a nice boat.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote glewis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 7:57am

That's really good advice.  Thanks.

General question to Solution owners, and those awaiting delivery - where does everyone sail their boats, have not decided where I should sail and it would be good if I could join some other people - I am based near Warrington by the way.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote glewis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 8:09am

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You're right about the RS300, I had a go in one in Minroca a number of years ago and it's a great boat, there is a learning curve however, I am sure I would spend the first few weeks upside down.  The Soution, yes, I shall fall in, but it's a boat you can get in and sail fairly easily without having to practice capsize drilsl too much!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 8:57am
There is one at our club. And i have to say i does look like a sorted bit of kit! It looks actually quite fast and im waiting to pry the enthusiastic owner from his boat
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tack'ho Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 11:25am
I am watching the solution with interest.  When I can eventually fight the middle age spread no longer and find myself to heavy for the Byte if it's still around I'd certainly consider one.  Plus i could go and watch it being built and have all the contols exactly where i wanted them and stuff.  Just wish it had a carbon pick.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

It looks nice- but I thought the solo kinda fits the bill for the 'post laser - pre phantom' stage of beer gut development?



Most people who want to go Laser-something else-Phantom as beer gut develops would probably want something a little more sprightly than the Solo.

Personally I would suggest going Laser -Blaze and stop there. The Blaze is a match for a Phantom in a blow and much easier to control.

Just my 2p, but then again i am hopelessy biased.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mike ellis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 3:58pm
i know my teacher sails from Seafarers on the solent (near Lee on Solent) and he said that his wouldnt be the only boat there.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote blaze720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 4:38pm
Blaze banter .....  come along guys just get in touch and try one !  Yes of course we are hopeless addicts and extremely biased but its simply a fantastic boat. More fun per pound than almost anything in that sector of the market. Challenging, both relatively fast and easy to sail, but not perhaps not as easy to get that last 1% out of it !  Over the years we got so taken by the boat we leapt at the opportunity to take over production this autumn - its now supplied by us with Rondar building hulls.  The Blaze is probably still one of the most under estimated modern boats around.  With a regular around 50 at the Nationals and 30 just last weekend at the Inlands we are still a small class but positively thriving.  I would not knock anything else out there but would suggest anyone interested in a 'middleweights' boat (and many lights and heavies find it great too) to give it a good look over.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote glewis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 06 at 12:08pm

Hi Mike

Yes, the Blaze looks like a riot, there is one where I used to sail and that guy gets a lot of fun out of it.  The concern I had was what I've referred to in another message - a bit of a learning curve which I do not think I shall have in the Solution.  Enjoy a challenge, but I just want to get sailing again after a long time off the water.  May be I'll have a think about my next boat in a few years time.

 

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