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I guess it's down to how each person adapts to the boat then as in my experience the 200 was much easier ... Rick |
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I'd guess a Lark tacks pretty well?
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Olly4088 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 424 |
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Anouther boat that is a good roll tacker is an Albacore as its long and thin and also has a rounded hull aswell.
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The British Moth, as the best river singlehander, has to rank up with the Firefly and Ent for roll tackiness, with the short waterline and massivly tall rig, The Comet is also pretty good, but the rig doesn't generate quite enough power as you pull it upright to bring the boat "up to speed" again. We never come out of tacks faster than we go in, of course, do we folks...?!
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Enterprise 10 RS200 8 N12 modern 7 420 6 505 |
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I also have some I don't want to get into a pointless RS vs FB tacking discussion here - and I wasn't saying that the FB rolls better than the 200. The FB probably wasn't the best example to use but like you Rick, its one I'm familiar with. I did mean to say that just because a boat looks like it will be a good roll tacker (roundish sections, reasonable rise of floor, decent rocker etc) doesn't necessarily mean that it will be that much better than one that looks like it will be poor (Flat panels low rise of floor etc i.e. FB). There are other factors to consider. What other factors? Well in my opinion any boat with a fully battened main would lose at least two 'points' in JimCs rating system. The main is acting as a brake on the new tack until it's 'popped' - it doesn't always pop easily, when it pops, any flow is lost, and to make it pop easier, kicker tends to be applied - which is not fast for very light conditions. Put another way, do we think an Ent or Firefly would roll tack as well with a fully battened main? The RS200 is also prone to scooping water - making the angle of roll more critical than in many classes. The RS requires precise technique because its awkward to get the tiller extension through the gap between mainsheet and boom. So it sometimes ends up the wrong side of the mainsheet during the roll. To counter this, many people push the tiller hard over - losing speed and over rotating the turn thus losing ground to windward. None of the above apply to our agreed roll tacking stars - like the Ent. |
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You can roll tack a Laser quite well...the trick is to get the (new) leeward gunwhale under water and have the foils just in enough to keep them gripping. The pull the boat upright, sheet in and point up.... Works wonders in light winds!
Phantoms are pretty good too (see the pic inside the cover of the Y&Y tacing classes guide...that was the exit of a roll tack (I know the sailor, he has been our club champ for the last 12 years). Not sure on the Blaze yet (no wind yesterday....didn't get to take it out) but I am told do not dip the racks! Paul |
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Enterprise 10 Edited by Guest#260 |
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Capsizing is for muppets, what I do is an art form...
I call it 'Silent Dance On Green Hull' My place at RADA is already booked... Edited by Isis |
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Chris Noble ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 710 |
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400 degrees, so u capsize then eh
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