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    Posted: 12 Oct 05 at 11:24am

Originally posted by Ian29937

I've always simply avoided big handicap events.  With the limited visibility a single handed skiff has with the genniker up, it can get quite hairy with lots of boats sailing different angles at high speed.  Not fun!
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I've always simply avoided big handicap events.  With the limited visibility a single handed skiff has with the genniker up, it can get quite hairy with lots of boats sailing different angles at high speed.  Not fun!

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Originally posted by Giblets

All sounds like such a great idea, but having raced against some non asymmetric singlehanders it really doesn't work. Fact is they don't like having us fly over them regularly and it makes it very hard for them to win events, take a look at any of the big handicap events to see if there have been any singlehanded winners other than the MPS. If you are going to do it, it would have to be split into assym / non courses.

 

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All sounds like such a great idea, but having raced against some non asymmetric singlehanders it really doesn't work. Fact is they don't like having us fly over them regularly and it makes it very hard for them to win events, take a look at any of the big handicap events to see if there have been any singlehanded winners other than the MPS. If you are going to do it, it would have to be split into assym / non courses.
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Never heard of it ! When was it ? Do you remember a name ?

Could be a good idea though

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Originally posted by Ian Renilson

It's not a great idea to combine all singlehanded boats on the same course, because the high-performance asymmetric skiffs blasting downwind through a fleet of (eg) Lasers/ Toppers/ Oppies is a recipe for disaster - it's guaranteed to put some young kid off sailing when he gets a bow-sprit coming towards him at 20+ knots . Windward boat keeps clear !

At least other skiffs know to keep a look-out when they are going upwind and shout an early warning (well, some do).

You'd really need 2 courses, and then it's not the same event.

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Yes, MUST be 2 (or maybe 3 courses)

Consider a slow asm like a vareo vs something quick like an I17 / Shadow PY around 735 (or something V quick like my new boat PY around 650)

Might actually want to split it V fast(ASM), Fast(ASM), and not fast (non ASM) 
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If you sail the Saturday with your own boat and Sunday with a different type it will even out any advantages of a particular class.   I Hope there is not any oppies there I'm way over 74.7Kg

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It's not a great idea to combine all singlehanded boats on the same course, because the high-performance asymmetric skiffs blasting downwind through a fleet of (eg) Lasers/ Toppers/ Oppies is a recipe for disaster - it's guaranteed to put some young kid off sailing when he gets a bow-sprit coming towards him at 20+ knots . Windward boat keeps clear !

At least other skiffs know to keep a look-out when they are going upwind and shout an early warning (well, some do).

You'd really need 2 courses, and then it's not the same event.

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Originally posted by Chris Noble

perhaps we'd see such an event evolving from the scottish single handed champs if we ran it a bit closer to th border, often it is the distance to travel that exclude competitors from an event, if we made it much more accesible then the numbers would surely grow... A big central fast handicap single handed event would be excellent, if it was to be un with reaching courses for the single sails and windward leeward for the asy. boats then it would be great you could start with 2 starts one for each course and just run off of handicaps. Yes the idea needs tweaking but it doesnt sound too complicated.

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Originally posted by Ian Renilson

Hey, Sten:

It would take some foiling Moth to get your lardy .... airbourne !

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True; but with enough thrust it's possible to get a 747 off the ground so what speed would a foiling moth need to reach to lift Sten's up?

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