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    Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 7:24pm
I think that the spice would be a good first twin wire boat, as it is more forgiving than say a cherub or I14, but will still teach you the basic skills to move on to more extreme boats.
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I think maybe comparing the Spice and the Cherub is a little unfair! The Cherub is an extreme development class, and the Spice was designed as an easy way to start twin trapezing and not fall in ALL the time, just as the Buzz was for single wire asymmetrics. For those of us who generally sail slow, tactical boats, the Buzz seems very quick and uses skills we don't often get to use. Cherubs, 29ers etc offer a much steeper learning curve, and are less small pond friendly, as they are far less forgiving. I'm sure the Spice fufills the same role, or would have done if Topper had done their job properly...I don't think it was ever intended as a really radical boat, or they wouldn't have used the Buzz hull moulding (the internal moulding was changed). The Boss was Topper's extreme boat, and was hit by poor marketing and the 49er, which outdated it overnight.
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HAHA, I must agree with you Mr Champ

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by ssailor

the hull is a good shape


There are those who would dispute that statement [grin]

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Post Options Post Options   Quote carshalton fc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 5:53pm
the b14 is a cool boat but i sort of agee with you about the 59er
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Perhaps, but itll still weight a tonne!! But at least they did one thing right with twin wire, unlike the B14 & 59er (grandads version of a skiff  )
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Post Options Post Options   Quote carshalton fc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 5:41pm
yer thinking about it the spice could have done with the rig off the bosss maybe !
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Post Options Post Options   Quote andy_cherub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 5:32pm

Funny you should say that..................... The spice was a good idea, if only it had a carbon hull and carbon rig, and perhaps a lil more rag!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote carshalton fc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 5:20pm
the compared to a cherub the spice looks like a fatboat that wouldnt move!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ssailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 5:03pm
Yeh the spice is fun and very stable but as with any design it has its own little ways!

The weight is the main disadvantage the hull is a good shape it planes pretty easy but at the end of the day my 14 is longer has more sail area and fully rigged still ways less than the bare spice hull!
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