Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Topper Spice |
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Mike278 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 256 |
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I think that the spice would be a good first twin wire boat, as it is more forgiving than say a cherub or I14, but will still teach you the basic skills to move on to more extreme boats.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I think maybe comparing the Spice and the Cherub is a little unfair! The Cherub is an extreme development class, and the Spice was designed as an easy way to start twin trapezing and not fall in ALL the time, just as the Buzz was for single wire asymmetrics. For those of us who generally sail slow, tactical boats, the Buzz seems very quick and uses skills we don't often get to use. Cherubs, 29ers etc offer a much steeper learning curve, and are less small pond friendly, as they are far less forgiving. I'm sure the Spice fufills the same role, or would have done if Topper had done their job properly...I don't think it was ever intended as a really radical boat, or they wouldn't have used the Buzz hull moulding (the internal moulding was changed). The Boss was Topper's extreme boat, and was hit by poor marketing and the 49er, which outdated it overnight.
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andy_cherub ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768 |
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HAHA, I must agree with you Mr Champ See you on the water |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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There are those who would dispute that statement [grin] Edited by JimC |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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the b14 is a cool boat but i sort of agee with you about the 59er
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andy_cherub ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768 |
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Perhaps, but itll still weight a tonne!! But at least they did one thing right with twin wire, unlike the B14 & 59er (grandads version of a skiff
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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yer thinking about it the spice could have done with the rig off the bosss maybe !
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andy_cherub ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768 |
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Funny you should say that..................... The spice was a good idea, if only it had a carbon hull and carbon rig, and perhaps a lil more rag! |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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the compared to a cherub the spice looks like a fatboat that wouldnt move!!
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ssailor ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 430 |
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Yeh the spice is fun and very stable but as with any design it has its own little ways!
The weight is the main disadvantage the hull is a good shape it planes pretty easy but at the end of the day my 14 is longer has more sail area and fully rigged still ways less than the bare spice hull! |
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