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    Posted: 14 Jun 05 at 9:04pm
the other thing is that in a few years, there is a strong possibility that the 600 COULD be foiling (its only a COULD at the moment, but aside form the moth , linton has been "experimenting" with a 600 recently, but itd make sense to make the 600 the next foiling production boat)
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Another vote for the 600 - for your budget you can either get an early and possibly quite tired 700 or a nearly new 600, which will be cheaper long term as there will be less likelyhood of gear failure on a newer boat.

Fleet size - yes there are less boats at 600 meets than 700 but at last years nationals the numbers were almost the same. Plus there are loads of people just getting to grips with the boat at club level so I think next years opens will be much better attended.

I have sailed a 600 for three years and I still love it, and having sailed a 700 I actually prefer the 600. The 700 is much heavier and has less sensation of speed than the 600, and is much simpler to set up and sail.

There is a demo boat for the 600 class making it's way round the country, so if you fancy a go let me know and I'll try and arrange something
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I would recommend looking for a cheap 600 and haggling downwards.  I reckon you may be able to get one in reasonable condition for £1500-£1800 if you drive a hard bargain.  At that price further depreciation is not such a concern. 

600s are a fantastic design, although initially most find them difficult to sail. Another thing to consider is the running costs: 600s are simple, robust and don't have an expensive spinnaker and blocks to replace every season.  If you are stretching your budget to buy the boat in the first place this is a real consideration. 

Don't get me wrong I think Mustos and 700s are great, but in terms of thrills on a budget you can't beat a 600.

 

 
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Go for a 600. You'd get a great boat with your budget.

At your weight the Contender is not really suited (I've had both).

Despite the 600 numbers suffering due to the 700 there does seem to be real interest at the moment because they're such a lot of boat for your money.

They also make a great learning platform if you want to go assymetric at some stage in the future(they're tippier than MPS or 700).

I have had Lasers for years and have found that having got a 600 I  really now enjoy sailing again - just mucking about or racing.

In addition, even if you have a rubbish race you still will have a big grin.

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Still a good market for the 600 because they are in different price ranges
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thats trow but also people are buying the mps and the 700 isted of the 600 now because they have a kite
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A lot of people are buying 600s now because they are so cheap and are cracking boats. What will probably happen is that as the prices go down it will atract more buyers due to the cheapness of what is a quality boat. The prices are pretty low just now so I reckon you won't lose too much when you want to sell, and maybe as the class numbers increase, the prices will go back up due to the added demand.
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i am thinking about the 600 and i like it and i like the idear of saving money  

but the 600 are losing there money and there fleet size fast

and i also would like to get a mps when i get older

but im still not 100% i still want your vews

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you wont be able to get a good foiling option for that money, but you will be able to get a good second hand boat and eventually fit foils to it, and you are fine in that weight range, despite what many people say, there are some people around 14 stone in the class, but if you test sail one, dont be put off too easily as they are definetly a challenge at first but well worth it in the long run
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Good idea about buying a cheap 600 and saving for the MPS. It will provide you with a positive aim for the future and the 600 will give you the basics for moving into the MPS. The 600 is well established but I reckon the MPS is the boat to keep an eye on for the future as I'm sure many others will agree...
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