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    Posted: 13 Jun 05 at 4:47pm
Not sure about the mainsheet load helping out tired leg/stomach muscles... as the conditions where you are hiking hard are those you need to play the main the most...
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so what are they for?
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Originally posted by Peter Rhodes

can't you play the main with the traveler and leave the sheet cleated so there is less load to deal with


Not many travellers about these days. The only boat I sail which has a traveller on was built in 1970! With modern mainsheet arrangements like bridles to boom height there's not really any use for them on most classes.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Bobbins

Someone explain whats so good about having the mainsheet coming straight off the boom (via blocks etc)? 

Some more points...
  • Mainsheet load helps out tired legs/stomach muscles hiking.
  • Because you can't jam the mainsheet you don't jam the mainsheet so you play it properly which is far faster than leaving it jammed.
  • Less blocks - less friction. OK its an extreme case bit on my Cherub the mainsheet goes through two blocks, one on the end of the boom and the ratchet in the middle. So free running, so much less effort.

can't you play the main with the traveler and leave the sheet cleated so there is less load to deal with
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I moved to twin tillering and sheet out of the boom 1 month ago on my int14.

First meeting with my crew sheeting, we noticed an increased speed upwind and far more feeling downwind.

Second meeting I was with a rookie in 15 knts and I had to keep the sheet. I lost speed compared to the previous time but I significantly reduced my capsized.

After 4 hours on the water on satursday (approx 10knts) and 3 hours the day after (approx 15knts) I wasn't totally burnt.
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The Helm taking the sheet from the boom downwind
in any boat allows more feel and also if u take it
straight from the first purchase (so 1:1or 2:1) when
you pull a foot of sheet in the boom moves alot
further than through an 8:1 system. so pumps are
much more effective!
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lol yeh very true!  it is (i think...!) imposs to put tiller round the back in a 40 or 29er coz the  strops r in the way... if you did do it it'd be  very likely 2 get courght( i cant splell) on strops etc.
me overstear in a gybe...never... (but seriously i was sayin single tiller is only good in light winds and i nevaer (well nearly) do overstear in lightwind)
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You can keep twin tillers pointing forwards - just need some garden hose pipe and some shockcord and a little ingenuity...

Aft sheeting is much less sheet load therefore much less load on the arms compared to centre main sheeting - this is because the rope leading from the gorilla pulling the sheet to the block on the boom is pulling the main almost directly in & out.  With conventional centre main you the force is much closer to the vertical so you have to have much higher sheet load to pull the main in & out.  That means your arms get knackered and you need a cleat...
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Regards sheeting the sooner you give the sheet to the crew the sooner they will get good at sheeting!!!
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at the end of the aay in any boat faster than a 29er its worth it, you cant argue with pratically the whole of the skiff fleets around the world, alot of int. 14s, 49ers, 29ers, 18ftskiffs, 12ftskiffs, 16ftskiffs etc etc!!!
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