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49erGBR735HSC
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Topic: boom main sheetingPosted: 12 Jun 05 at 1:58pm |
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Leaves a tidier deck layout too. Less things to hit when
running accross the boat. Tried both systems on skiffs and would hate
to go back to the conventional system. Red Back mentioned that twin
tillers are a disadvvantage. Would strongly disagree because with the
twin tiller system you have more control through tacks when its
windier. Whats easier, swinging a tiller round the back of a boat or
simply sliding your hands along it? Suppose its all down to personal
preference.
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ssailor
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Posted: 12 Jun 05 at 6:39pm |
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Yeh twin tillers give you alot more control, just watch the gybing in
higher and faster, just come of the wire run and slide your hands down
and turn
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squeek
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Posted: 12 Jun 05 at 8:39pm |
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twins are good in anything above 15knots but there a right pain in the
ass in the light stuff; helm cant keep weight forward in tacks or gybes
etc...
as for main off the boom its mostly in skiff type boats n depends on the size of the boat. 29ers and anything the same size or bigger do it but in for example in 405's only 2 or 3 boats ever did it n only if it was 25 knots plus. n in situations such as that depends if the helm or crew has a better technique for playin it. |
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 12 Jun 05 at 8:46pm |
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Why can the helm not keep his weight forward with twin tillers??? You have to go back to the same point in the boat whether you are sweeping the extension around the back or changing extensions. The crew should always be able to play the main better than the helm as they have two hands! 405s where designed quite a while ago compared to 29ers and hence IMHO why some of the technique used are not as good... |
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Posted: 12 Jun 05 at 9:04pm |
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in 9ers and 405's (duno about any other boats) you dont ''sweep''
it round the back u keep it forward...so can stay forward with
single unlike double.
true 2 hands has gotta be betta than 1! but in the littler boats.. if the helm has a good thechnique it gonna go quiker and flatter then a 2 handed crap main playing crew |
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 12 Jun 05 at 9:19pm |
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The problem if you keep the extension forward (as opposed to sweep around the back) is it easy to oversteer... especially on those windy gybes!
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Posted: 12 Jun 05 at 9:20pm |
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at the end of the aay in any boat faster than a 29er its worth it, you
cant argue with pratically the whole of the skiff fleets around the
world, alot of int. 14s, 49ers, 29ers, 18ftskiffs, 12ftskiffs,
16ftskiffs etc etc!!!
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Posted: 13 Jun 05 at 9:25am |
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Regards sheeting the sooner you give the sheet to the crew the sooner they will get good at sheeting!!!
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Posted: 13 Jun 05 at 11:01am |
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You can keep twin tillers pointing forwards - just need some garden hose pipe and some shockcord and a little ingenuity... Aft sheeting is much less sheet load therefore much less load on the arms compared to centre main sheeting - this is because the rope leading from the gorilla pulling the sheet to the block on the boom is pulling the main almost directly in & out. With conventional centre main you the force is much closer to the vertical so you have to have much higher sheet load to pull the main in & out. That means your arms get knackered and you need a cleat... |
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Posted: 13 Jun 05 at 11:30am |
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lol yeh very true! it is (i think...!) imposs to put tiller round
the back in a 40 or 29er coz the strops r in the way... if you
did do it it'd be very likely 2 get courght( i cant splell) on
strops etc.
me overstear in a gybe...never... (but seriously i was sayin single tiller is only good in light winds and i nevaer (well nearly) do overstear in lightwind) |
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