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    Posted: 11 Nov 09 at 9:59am
I haven't updated the site yet as Thursday is the official release day. I know subscribers often get their copies a day or two early, but I don't like to advertise the new cover/contents until people can go to WH SMiths and buy it.
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Originally posted by MerlinMags

I haven't updated the site yet as Thursday is the official release day. I know subscribers often get their copies a day or two early, but I don't like to advertise the new cover/contents until people can go to WH SMiths and buy it.

Nice picture of an 18ft Skiff on the cover ... subscription is the way to go

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Mine arrived today!  Clearly Kent has a better postal service than Cambridge!
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Hopefully mine's at home too then. Certainly didn't get it yesterday.
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I was surprised there were only 36 new RS200s this year, just a few years ago they were chucking out about 100 a year, is the market saturated already or are they still suffering due to the poor quality hulls that were made when production was out in Brazil?
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I think that racing classes thing is a ridiculous assessment of the market
if indeed that's what it is intended as.

It perpetuates ancient dross like fireballs, merlins, cadets ffs

What relevance are they to modern thinking sailors like me for instance?

It's no wonder this market is the shambles that it is. Having to wait eons
for new boats, no continuity or standardization of key fittings.

I'm also whilst in full rant very disappointed with the mag this month the
Blaze nationals review didn't have any pictures and no mention of the
'incident' and controversy that rocked the event with one of the class
builders fielding a special foil or whatever it was that wound them all up.

Then there's still no mention of the Alto (for example) in that listing, how
the hell are you going to get new stuff accepted?

O.K. so it's not yet a racing class, but surely there must be some form of
'other stuff that's race capable" as a secondary list, and there are still too
many stories about lead mines..

I did get it yesterday though, the digital thing is working well, no
improvement on the classifieds yet though..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 9:05am

Originally posted by G.R.F.

I think that racing classes thing is a ridiculous assessment of the market
if indeed that's what it is intended as.

It perpetuates ancient dross like fireballs, merlins, cadets ffs


It wouldn't be much of a review if it didn't cover some of the most popular classes in the UK would it ...

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The reports and pictures are sent in by people in the class. If Y&Y doesn't get them, they can't print them. Same goes for classes in the review.

As for not including old classes, this isn't windsurfing, where kit is thrown away if it is last year's colours, it is a proper competitive sport where the equipment is used to create a level playing field, not to pull babes on the beach.

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It's not the pulling babe on the beach factor, it's the progress inhibition that
is endemic in the 'class' system.

There are lots of modern trends going on, dont use windsurfing as an
example windsurfing is also inhibited by the fact that it is/was the b**tard
child of sailing in the first place and is still governed as such.

So getting back to the Nationals thing they are only ever reported by the
class then?
Hah that's going to get some really incisive reports.

Whatever. It is what it is, and it's clearly not going anywhere fast.

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Grumpf, the notable thing about progress is that it makes most of our kit obsolete and we have to throw it away.
This is not conducive to building big fleets.

The non-progressive classes (or 'dross') like the Fireball are only as big as they are because the boats remain
viable in racing terms for 20 years or more.

Personally I would rather race every weekend in a Fireball with about 12 other boats at my club than buy a new
cutting edge boat every year and race it against one or two others (if I'm lucky) or have to trail it round the
countryside to get some competition. It's too expensive and too much like hard work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of progress. But it's just a fact of life that you won't get mainstream
acceptance and big numbers of anything where the pace of change is significant.
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