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Jordan 
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Joined: 07 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 26 |
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 Topic: RS600 Vortex or RS300Posted: 09 Feb 09 at 11:43pm |
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Personally i would of siad the rs600 or a rs300. Ive heard the vortex nose dives alot! even if you are quite far back. but rs600 would be pushing it! jordan |
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dave.blakesley
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Joined: 25 Mar 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 314 |
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Posted: 10 Feb 09 at 8:56am |
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Yes, the vortex nosedives alot, but its very stable, and even without the
assym kit its alot of fun. The vortex is very easy to prevent nosediving, thats what the footloops are for! Even though i had a vortex, i would still rather have the 600 or the 300... The 600 will be more difficult to learn how to sail, and involve a bit more swimming, but would be much more rewarding in the end! Edited by dave.blakesley |
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English Dave
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Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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Posted: 10 Feb 09 at 11:42am |
Not really. Although I think the "tunnel hull" is a load of old guff I always found the Vortex to be well behaved. It will stick its bows into a wave but pop out the other side and the ride isn't a "planing" sensation in the traditional sense so the idea of having to ride the boat nose high doesn't really apply. The RS boats will always be a purists choice. It depends where you want to take your sailing. My only concern for you with regard the 600 is that at only 60kg (what height?) you are going to get knackered quite quickly with all the capsizing until you get it dialled in. I think that 60kg is right at the lower edge of sailing a 600, especially on open water. Likewise a 300. If you choose not to go out in the windy days then you are not developing your sailing to its best. Your call but don't dismiss the Vortex just because it hasn't the cachet of an RS. |
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ratface
Really should get out more
Joined: 07 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 686 |
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Posted: 10 Feb 09 at 11:50am |
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having owned a rs300 and sailed a vortex a few times, i would say if
you go for a 300 then you will have to go for a A rig, while i had my
300(B rig) i was around the 62-67kg weight range and was only really just coping with
the rig, but then i did sail it inland! on the sea will be a different
matter, i nosedived a fair bit too... was fully powered up in 5-8knots.
you have to be pretty quick to sail it as well as they are tippy(have
sailed a foiling moth and it felt more stable on the foils than a 300 is
 ) have sailed it on the sea once and it handles very nicely, even with my poor upwind sailing in waves at the time.the Vortex, have sailed ^Dave Blakesley's^ old one a handful of times and every time i came off the water with a smile on my face! great boat, stable, however i found you have to sail it more like a cat due to its "tunnel hull" at my weight i didn't once feel i wasn't able to cope with the boat, never had a issue with it nosediving myself but did have one close call, whereas the other lads at the club that sailed it seemed to go down the mine very often mainly on purpose/not being far enough back(mind you they had a lot more fat than me) and righting it i didn't find that much difficulty either. the rs600 i cant comment on as have only ever seen them being sailed but from what i've seen/heard they fly upwind but can be dull off the wind. Sounds like you are too light for one, even with wide wings and a reefed sail. personally at your weight i would go for the Vortex, as English Dave says you wont be able to go out in stronger winds before you get tired after a short sail Edited by ratface |
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Jamie600
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Joined: 14 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 718 |
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Posted: 11 Feb 09 at 1:40pm |
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I've sailed a 300 and a 600 at Filey and I found the 300 a handful in the sort of waves you can get there (bloody big ones!), I was right at the back of the boat, one buttock on the boat the other in fresh air, full kicker on and it was still wanting to nosedive. The 600 was fine, and did really well on handicap on the P-courses they tend to sail on there. I'd say 6 or Vortex, leaning towards Vortex if it means having others to sail against or being the only one of a kind, last time I looked the 600 sailors at Filey had gone to Mustos. The other thing to bear in mind is the launching and recovery conditions, in some sea states you have to just aim at the beach and surf up it so you want something that can take that kind of treatment. The tide can drop a long way so a boat that can be left happily on the beach while you get your trolley is useful. |
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