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    Posted: 02 Jul 08 at 4:30pm

ToY and Solo have both been owned in the past. The ToY was great on a reach but really suffered upwind, and the shroud base was so far back that running was a nightmare. Fun boat for a blast, but not great round a race track. The Solo was nice to sail, but I'm really looking for something a bit quicker. Certainly quicker than my old glass one was...Good suggestions, though.

Must have a play in a Finn at Netley, Neil, though I hear they like to break their helms!
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Ok, 1972 book of dinghies......not sure of speed or when they were designed but these are the single handers i have found.........

Bonito,

British Moth,

Contender,

Dolphin Sailer,

Durafloat 3.10,

Felix (cat),

Finn,

Fly,

Jiffy,

MInisail,

International Moth,

OK,

Poole AB,

Puffin,

Seafire,

Solo,

10sq. M. Canoe

ToY,

Unicorn (cat)

Are any of them any good?
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I have a penchant for classics too - hence the purchase of the i14 K869 - so if I were going for a single hander on a small lake it would have to be a British Moth.  I got outbid for one on ebay which was a shame....apparently they can be hard to get hold of.

I've had an OK too - nice boat and probably just about alright for your weight range.

I'm hoping to make it to Netley on the 20th to get some ideas from other classic i14s that may be there.

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Firefly was, once (and once only), the men's Olympic singlehander. How about an old Fairey wooden one?
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Rupert,

Get a Finn, you know it makes sense!  I had my first Finn when I was 16 and weighed 10 stone, I loved it.  I'm still having a lot of fun in my Finn over 30 years later and I'm still way underweight!

Advantages of a Finn on small waters and underweight; 1. You're fast in light winds because its got a good sail area; 2. Its fast on dead runs because the boom goes all the way out so sailing by the lee is fast; 3. In strong winds your experience will make up for your lack of weight so you will still be fast.

Or you could take the soft option and go for an OK!!
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Are any of them any good?

The non-survivors all have their problems, so only the surviving classes are left. If you then factor in Rupert's small lake and desire to be quicker than a Laser you're left with the Finn. Never thought I'd find myself recommending one: too heavy for me! Think I'd stick with the Moth or go to a Canoe sized lake.

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Hmmm...just sold the British Moth, and I do race Fireflies singlehanded most weekends, but both good suggestions, thanks! Of the list, the only unusual one on it of the sort of singlehander we are talking about is the Bonito, which was well and truly killed by the Laser. I have never worked out how it comes to have such a slow yardstick for such a big boat. Anyone here ever sailed one?
The Fairey Finn route would involve me getting our 2nd Firefly done up before taking on another hot moulded boat. Certainly the prettist, though.
Thank you all for your imput!
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Are any of them any good?

The non-survivors all have their problems, so only the surviving classes are left. /QUOTE]

Well yeah! I knew that.....thats why they aren't surviving!! I meant are any of them good enough for his needs!
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Pre 1965 limits the choice somewhat.  When was the minisprint (with the sliding seat) designed? 
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The minisprint dates back far enough. I owned on when I lived in Aberystwyth, sailing on the Irish sea, and it was great fun on open water. More recently, I owned a Minisail with a bolt on seat on the lake, and to be honest it was more fun without the seat, which tended to be in the way more than it helped with leverage. Might just be me, though, finding it tricky in the shifty breeze. Both boats would have been much better with a less bendy rig, especially the boom. 
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