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    Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 7:18pm
I thought that in between being Exocet and B14, it was 'Extrovert' as well. At least it was in an old dinghy class id book I had as a nipper.
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The Exocet originally had a fixed glass pole, and a bendy glass mast tip.
The B14E ( European for light winds ) had a bigger jib, one trapeze, with one-piece alloy mast.
Later this variant disappeared, but the 'new' B14 had the bigger jib and the wide sitting-out wings.
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That would be a seriously hard boat to sail!

The foredeck arrangement does not allow for a chute in any way really.  Due to the kite pole being in a tube underneath the foredeck, the chute would have to be set rather far back and off centre...

If you were to singlehand it you'd need a jib sheet system similar to the Swift Solo, as the jib is a rather powerful 5.2 sq/m... it can send you in quite easily. 

Strawb is right, as when you hike remember most of your body is off the sides of the racks - so one guy about 3 feet further out than that won't be the same as two guys 3 feet in. 
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so if you were REALY tall...
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Originally posted by boatshed

The thinking being that one person trapezing is about the same as two hiking.

I'm not sure I agree with that. If this were true, then the CofG of the righting moment of the single person would need to move double the distance away from the centre of the boat.
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JimC is pretty much on the money and it may even have been called an Exocet at one time ???

I friend of mine considered making the jib self tacking, adding a shute and coverting a B14 to a trapeze single hander.   The thinking being that one person trapezing is about the same as two hiking.  Call the men in white coats.
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Exocet was the original name for all B14s, but they dropped the name as it had bad vibes over here for a start...

In a slight rewriting of history Starboard products published this in various places, notably here: http://www.yachting.org.au/news/news.asp?Year=2002&Month=11& MenuID=News%2F10537%2F0

The B14 was designed by Julian Bethwaite, and first went on display at the Earls Court Boat Show in England, in January 1989. [snip] Originally christened the Exocet, the name was changed as a result of the Falklands War to ‘B14’.


I say slight rewriting of history because the Falklands war was of course in '83 and was the only reason anyone had heard the name Exocet outside the military... The B14E was later than 89 IIRC.
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Dim distant past but didn't the E stand for exocet? I thought there was 2 versions - B14 in oz and Exocet in Europe one with big wings and one with a single trapeze.

Probably wrong, a lot of beer has flowed since then.
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Originally posted by timnoyce

I'd like to see twin trapezing off the big wings. Surely that would be immense in a blow if you got powered up enough to get out there?!

 

I think it's called a 49er



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As I remember the narrow wing/string version got dropped when the Class started to get its International connections working... Again as I remember initially the no string version didn't shift at all in the UK so the single string one was introduced which was more popular. However when teh class got going and it all looked a bit less extreme they managed to drop the odd version.

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