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    Posted: 03 Aug 06 at 8:10pm
Originally posted by Worthy

Kids on rubber dingies who have drifted out to sea


so basically oppies then.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Worthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 06 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by feva_sailor

Originally posted by Worthy

Kids on rubber dingies who have drifted out to sea


so basically oppies then.


but with oppies you also have the obstacle of the several parent support boats
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For me, when I raced the B14, it was just any slower boat.  Downwind, Mirrors just become stationary objects to drive around.  The rules just seemed to work better if we kept clear of everyone.

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Was the start of this post a serious question? If so to identify navigational hazards at sea you need to look at the appropriate chart and also sometimes its worth a look at the relevent pilot or harbour guide. there are also things you shouldn't do (although not strictly speaking a hazard to navigation) like anchoring on foul ground. some of the more practical hazards have also been mentioned... What was the purpose of the question?
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Originally posted by Garry

.. What was the purpose of the question?


I suspect it might be have something to do with a DI course   


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its all in the handbook if it is
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Originally posted by laser47

its all in the handbook if it is


Not really if your 10 minute lecture is on hazards, the instructor's handbook G14 provides an outline but not a great deal of detail on many sailing topics.
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Originally posted by laser47

its all in the handbook if it is

Not wishing to flame you in paticular, but there seems to be a growing attitude that all I need to know to pass is in the handbook.  That may be the case but the handbooks do not provide anywhere near enough info to be a good instructor. Which is why asking questions on forums such as this and doing some more in depth research is a commendable attitude to have. If you want to be an instructor aim to be a good one!

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The hand book is a basic out line of what you need to know. You own knowledge is what makes you a good instructor and you need to be able to put it accross in a good way.

as in instructor you will always be gaining experiance and passing it on to others

Experiance is what you get when you dont get what you want

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Garry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 06 at 8:09am

Assuming this is a hazards talk which group is it aimed at as the content emphasis is different for L2 to how you might approach seamanship or daysailing.  For L2 (off the top of my head as I haven't checked the syllabus in the logbook) I would want to cover:

Hazards when rigging - overhead power lines, lifting, long masts (what's behind you)

Hazards when launching / recovering - Slippery slips, edge (deep or rough) other users, cars, leeshore, offshore.

Weather - what's forecast, does forecast = what you see, emphasis (at this level L2) correct sail plan, don't go if you're thinking about it, sailing area and what to do if weather closes in.

Navigation hazards at sea - other shipping, deep water channels, rocks, tides, shallows.

Letting someone know (where, when back and what to do if don't return)

Inland waters weirs, pumping stations, fishermen, overhead cables, locks, leprospirosis.

How to get this information.

 

With adults I would probably introduce the topic and set out some major headings and then get the students to brainstorm the hazards they can think of - then add any they've missed, summarise and tell them where to get further information if they went to a new venue (Harbourmaster, local SC etc).  alternatively if it was a windy day full of lectures (to give them a break) I would walk around the sailing centre discussing the hazards and just do a quick summary in the classroom.

That is probably more material than your ten minutes so you need to keep things moving along briskly.  I would prepare a brief summary to handout at the end as adults love to collect paper (and your theoristrs and reflectors will be able to review).  If you tell them you have a handout it prevents some taking notes so they can concentrate on what you say.

If it was juniors I would draw a map (with pics) on the whiteboard and brainstorm by getting them to identify the hazards they see and rather than notes some sort of worksheet (say a wordsearch with pictures of the hazards round the borders).

The SI workbook has a very good section on lectures and a planing sheet (you can download it from the RYA website).

Hope this helps.

 

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