Differences between Splash and Flash?

   Jack - the simple message is 40Kg and up can sail the boat very competitively, as can those up to 70 to 75 Kg.
Your missus at 48kg would be absolutely fine.
Chris249 - my opinion is that the CII rig works extremely well - balancing traveller, mainsheet, kicker and downhaul lets you get the leech exactly where you want it to be and the fullness in the sail where it needs to be and the gust response is superb.  I can't claim to having masses of time in the boat but in Phuket I sailed against a kid from the japanese yout squad in 5 - 8kts.  He was about 50kg and we were essentially neck & neck around the course so I would say I was still competitive.

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Blobby Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779	Post Options Post Reply Quote Blobby Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Differences between Splash and Flash? Posted: 13 May 06 at 6:03am
	Jack - the simple message is 40Kg and up can sail the boat very competitively, as can those up to 70 to 75 Kg. Your missus at 48kg would be absolutely fine. Chris249 - my opinion is that the CII rig works extremely well - balancing traveller, mainsheet, kicker and downhaul lets you get the leech exactly where you want it to be and the fullness in the sail where it needs to be and the gust response is superb. I can't claim to having masses of time in the boat but in Phuket I sailed against a kid from the japanese yout squad in 5 - 8kts. He was about 50kg and we were essentially neck & neck around the course so I would say I was still competitive.
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Prince Buster Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 15 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1146	Post Options Post Reply Quote Prince Buster Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 May 06 at 8:28am
	Jack I started in the Laser Radial when i was just a wee 45kg and I was severely overpowered when it got windy. I then sold the laser, bought a byte c11 for a season and had fantastic time in all wind strengths and was never really overpowered. I then decided I wanted better racing so i sold the byte and bought a radial again but at 50kg was still properly mashed by the big guys when the wind picked up. the moral of the story.........get a C11 Byte!!
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Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 06 at 7:46pm
	Thanks for that. It's always good to hear from people that have actually sailed the boat in question. In fact it would be good to hear from some Splash / Flash sailors! Anybody out there?
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Chris 249 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris 249 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 06 at 11:19pm
	Thanks for the Byte CII info, all. The rig looked good but there seems to be some hostility towards it (as well as those for it) on the Byte forum. One thing I really liked was the way the builder was going to sell the rig at cost (or close to it) to association members so they could update the whole rig for the cost of a new main. Great way to update a class without stuffing up existing owners and therefore losing your numbers.

mike ellis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike ellis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 06 at 4:13pm
	a C11 thingy sailed at my club once a couple of weeks ago. it went about the same speed as the lasers. it did have john pink in it though.
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tickel Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408	Post Options Post Reply Quote tickel Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 06 at 9:07pm
	A very experienced sailor at our little Derbyshire club pops down once in a while and thrashes us all in his CII Byte. It is a very old hull and he is not in the first flush of youth. He is very light for a man, possibly only 8 stone (I dont do this metric thing) and he popped over to Grafham last year, because he had nothing better to do, and won the inlands. I was there watching my boy in the Lightning inlands. All the Byte sailors seemed quite diminutive but they are lovely little boats and look modern too.
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tack'ho Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1100	Post Options Post Reply Quote tack'ho Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 06 at 9:24am
	The hostility to the CII rig came mostly from the north American sailors, where it is much more established youth class, however the standard or classic rig as we now call it, is pretty much dead for international contests as far as I can tell and doesn't support quite as wide a weight band. The hulls last forever as well, the guy who came a very convincing second in the open this weekend is ahem (forgive me Ray) well seasoned, as is his boat, but he was certainly not lacking for boatspeed except against the very good sailor who came first. The competetive age range is really good as well from a kids right up to the more mature. DO IT you know you want to!!!
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