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    Posted: 12 Dec 05 at 11:26am

So if you could be brilliant at one thing what would it be?

For me it would be starting ...

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Originally posted by Guest#260

For me it would be starting ...

The few times I've won the start in a big fleet, I've been amazed how easy it is staying at or at least near the front. So yes, it has to be starting.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

clear air and only your own mistakes to knock you back down the pecking order.... starting is very important but psycologically you enter a 'negative marking system' though!

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I think he means you start counting the boats that overtake you, which can undermine your confidence.
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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

I think he means you start counting the boats that overtake you, which can undermine your confidence.

Oh - I see.

Depends on your mentality ... and your expectation of result.

If I win the start well I expect to win the race.

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I think that winning is one step up from expectations.

"If I win the start well I expect to win the race"

I would imagine if Ben Anslie wins the start then he "knows" that he will win the race.
I've watched my son progress through his first year in the Topper national series. He has progressed from being outside the top 100 to finishing in the top 40. Nothing has changed during the season, same sail and hull , except for his attitude. Instead of hoping for a top 40 place at the start of the season he now knows he will get them.
And back to Ben, his competitors will also know that if he wins the start he will win the race.
I believe that psychology and confidence are the biggest factors once equipment and boat handling have evened out. 

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1. boatspeed, without speed you can never win in a good fleet

2starts, not going to come from behind in a good fleet

3tactics

4rules

5boat handling.

6 strategy

tactics/rules/boathandling/strategy, will all keep you at the top but without the others you are not going to win

i dont think weight should be there, it just gets lumped in with boatspeed to me

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The old man used to say:

"The race isn't always to the swift, but that is the way to bet.'

So given my skill levels, which go up and down with age and time in the boat, I will always want to be riding a swifter chariot.  Speed rules.

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Originally posted by Steve Clark

I will always want to be riding a swifter chariot.

Wouldn't we all. The question is: is there any such thing? I'd suggest that in most fleets, the front of the fleet are all getting 100% of possible boatspeed and the differences in finishing order come in starting and tactics. 

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Steve Clark

I will always want to be riding a swifter chariot.

Wouldn't we all. The question is: is there any such thing? I'd suggest that in most fleets, the front of the fleet are all getting 100% of possible boatspeed and the differences in finishing order come in starting and tactics. 

Agreed - people like to foucs on the equipment as they can blame their poor performance on it ...

I have never heard a winner credit it to the best gear.

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