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    Posted: 12 Oct 05 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by Ian29937

Sail No 51 has no name so I presume you simply don't know who owns it, but what happened to all the sail numbers between 7 and 50?  Were they ever built?

The MPS like the 49er and 29er reserve the sail numbers 01 to 50 to be used by the first 50 in last years worlds. Boats 0 - 7 were prototypes and are slightly different in the mouldings ...

A few of the boats we have lost track of as they move through the second hand market but we know where 95% of our boats are and who has them.

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What about in the lakes? at Ullswater or Windemere- great sailing there

is there not a speed limit in Windemere ?

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Now, now Rick, you're twisting my words. We all know there aren't hundreds, but as I said there are more than you think.

Oh, and sorry mate, there are no gaps in the sail numbers.

But as you raised the subject I was always interested in the sailors database on your website. 

http://www.mustoskiff.com/sailors-database.htm

Sail No 51 has no name so I presume you simply don't know who owns it, but what happened to all the sail numbers between 7 and 50?  Were they ever built?

Joking aside, in answer to your question, I think there are a lot of people in the 700 class who like me avoid handicap events.  With a limited number of weekend passes and a really strong and growing class circuit available (attendances up by an average of 50% this year except the Nationals, but there are reasons for that) most people prefer to do the class events.

We also know there are a lot of people who are happy simply club racing and haven't got the time to travel to opens etc due to family commitments.  You can't look at the big open events and make any conclusions about the numbers of boats or the health of the class.  Unfortunately, it's not that simple.

Now can we be friends again?

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Originally posted by Ian29937

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Mind you lets face it, if you want more than a couple of 700s to turn up you'll have to hold it at Hayling.  

I appreciate the humour.  However you'd be surprised how many 700's are dotted around the North of England and Scotland. It would be a great opportunity for them to take part in an open event. 

I have always wondered where all the 700's must be given the sail numbers (are there any gaps in the sail numbers??); If there are so many in the NE & Scotland how come there were 0 at the Lord Birkett out of 200+ boats (11 MPS's) and just one entered in the Scottish Skiff Circuit out of 64 boats(22 MPS's)

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http://www.scottishskiffracing.com/2005_grand_prix_final_rep ort.htm

http://www.ullswateryachtclub.org/lord-birkett-results.asp

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What about in the lakes? at Ullswater or Windemere- great sailing there
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Hector

Mind you lets face it, if you want more than a couple of 700s to turn up you'll have to hold it at Hayling.  

I appreciate the humour.  However you'd be surprised how many 700's are dotted around the North of England and Scotland. It would be a great opportunity for them to take part in an open event. 

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I think keilder would fit the bill perfectly, but it would have to have a lot of PR done to make it a big event, but this wouldnt necisarily be difficult, just get all the class associations participating to inform their members and post it on websites like this one and on the RYA events calenders as well as on sites such as the scottish skiffs site... I really think this could be pulled off, i was talking to the comodor of my club yesterday (Largs SC) and he is dead keen on such an event being held there, but this is a bit too far away for those south of the border, yet would make an excellent scottish event. And as to hayling hosting a uk event like this, it is too far away for anyone up here to really consider much like largs being too far for you...
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Never heard of it ! When was it ? Do you remember a name ?

Could be a good idea though

Quiberon around 3 or 4 Years ago. I was looking forward to going what is it like to sail there?

We still have a skiff race in Quiberon every year and next one is due to be on the 8-9-10th of may 2006 but it's not only for singlehanders. It's an amazing, beautifull, salvage venue full of wind.

I'll let you know when I know more about it.

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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by Chris Noble

perhaps we'd see such an event evolving from the scottish single handed champs if we ran it a bit closer to th border, often it is the distance to travel that exclude competitors from an event, if we made it much more accesible then the numbers would surely grow... A big central fast handicap single handed event would be excellent, if it was to be un with reaching courses for the single sails and windward leeward for the asy. boats then it would be great you could start with 2 starts one for each course and just run off of handicaps. Yes the idea needs tweaking but it doesnt sound too complicated.

Grafham ? -  The schedule will be full for next year (I'm 99.9% sure)

Or Rutland ?  

Scooby - Since when has Grafham been close to the Scottish Border -  its very close to London. Keilder would fit the bill as even though its officially in England, it feels like Scotland and is a great venue. Further South is Derwent Reservoir but as Leeds is actually half way to Edinburgh from London that may be to far for southerners to travel. Only decent paces at that latitude are Filey/Bridlington and Yorkshire Dales.

Mind you lets face it, if you want more than a couple of 700s to turn up you'll have to hold it at Hayling.  

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Originally posted by Ian29937

I've always simply avoided big handicap events.  With the limited visibility a single handed skiff has with the genniker up, it can get quite hairy with lots of boats sailing different angles at high speed.  Not fun!
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You just have to plan ahead a little more ... and if in doubt slow down ...

 

Exactly.  Not seeing is no excuse.  In order to be safe (and sailing one of the fastest things on Grafham) I have to spend a fair bit of planning ahead and time looking under the kite - the implications of hitting anyone while travelling at the sort of speeds involved does not really bear thinking about.

 

Also; how can you spot shifts and pressure if your eyes are not outside the boat?

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