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    Posted: 25 Sep 07 at 9:02pm

Worthy,

Is there any way you can correct the incorrect comments by voter 165 ?

 

 

 

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Sailor Pete,

You fail to understand many issues, the most important of which, is that the RYA wants an undisputed control over the Olympic agenda. The RYA doesn't want consultation. It is clear to many of us the RYA has planned this sting over a long period. This is shameful contempt. It would have been ridiculous for the RYA to invest in cat training if it already had plans to dump the multihulls.

It is interesting that you mention the 29ers and 420s. Could I ask you how many of these race at your club on a normal weekend? At my club, we have two 29ers in the boat park and they seldom race together. We have no 420s, which are perceived as naff. Instead, we have RS Fevas, and catamarans.

But the great thing about cats is that they are adult boats, too. Adults have greater staying power than children. This means our cadets have guaranteed competition, whereas in the 29ers they don't.

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I think voter 165 is correct - and he's entitled to his view, so shouldn't his comment stand?

I think his point is that the RYA submission nominates eight of the ten event slots for 2012, leaving the remaining two up to ISAF, so catamarans could have one or both of the remaining slots.  The petition wording is incorrect because the RYA submission is not to " to remove the catamaran as an Olympic boat for 2012".

Even if there are loads of signatures, it seems a bit pointless if the petition is incorrect...  

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Worthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 07 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by Sailor Pete

Even if there are loads of signatures, it seems a bit pointless if the petition is incorrect...  



The petition site has now been amended to clarify that point.

However it is, in my view, still tantamount to the RYA abandoning catamarans as a whole which is the feeling of the people signing the petition.

On the note about invalidity of the petition, the links to the submissions are clear from the site for all to see, so all are able to make up their mind with all the information available to them.


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Originally posted by Worthy

Simon, please delete some personal messages, I can't send you anything

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sailwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 07 at 9:35am

This seems very short-sighted. Surely as many different types of sailing as possible should be represented at the Olympic Games - single/double handed dinghy mono/multi fleet racing, keelboat fleet racing, windsurfer fleet racing, match racing, team racing... By actively seeking to narrow this down the RYA seem to be making it easier for the men weilding axes in the future. They should be trying to broaden the type of sailing represented (making it a safer platform) rather than actively start to commit seppuku...  

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/CatamaranSubmission/index .html



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Post Options Post Options   Quote catmandoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 07 at 9:47am

165 has signed the petition which is confirmation that he agrees to put his name to the statement , why is he using the comment section to contradict his signature.

 

Lets hope others are not so confused as to the purpose of signing a petition and trying to use the comment as a soapbox to air their views regarding the wording of the  petition itself .

 

The petition starter John Worthington hasn't hidden his identity and can easily be contacted .

 

 

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Ive had an interesting response from Rod Carr which he asked me to keep confidentdial. General gist is that the RYA do NOT think the ROI is good at youth and at Olympic level in multihulls and is blaming the lack of non RYA training on the poor ROI.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 07 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Stuart O

Ive had an interesting response from Rod Carr which he asked me to keep confidentdial. General gist is that the RYA do NOT think the ROI is good at youth and at Olympic level in multihulls and is blaming the lack of non RYA training on the poor ROI.

 

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what is ROI ?

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