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dics 
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 Topic: RS300 vs BlazePosted: 13 Jan 06 at 12:14pm |
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I have never found myself fighting against the 300. As with all boats it's technique. The 300 is sooooo gentle and responsive that it is impossible to bully the boat - you can't force it - and I ain't a great sailor by a long shot.
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Jon S
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 12:51pm |
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If you want the best and mostly likely unbiased opinion, I suggest you ask Rooster. When I spoke to Steve about this debate the other day, he is a fan of both the 300 and Blaze (and is or has been National Champion in both). Interestingly that at the boat show, Topper has a Blaze on their stand whilst RS failed to show off the 300. This is a real shame as the 300 remains the only boat of it's type and there seems to be real interest in the class now. Thank goodness for the Dinghy Show when manufacturers do not decide what will promoted but the enthusiastic sailors promote their class for all to see. |
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fizzicist
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 8:18pm |
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If you find yourself over powered in a 300, then you're doing something wrong. That rig can be depowerd a ridiculous amount! Pabs noted that he's 11 stone and, he also does damn well in the 300 fleet. There's been at least three events in the 300 calendar this year where Pabs and I have finished either on equal points or within one point of each other and yet I'm 3 and a half stone heavier than he is. Within the 300 fleet the range of sailors runs from 52kgs to 112kgs. Yet the two at those extremes finished very close together at the nationals - I doubt there's many classes that can provide close racing for such a wide range. |
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russell
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 9:32pm |
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I've done a couple of seasons now in the Phantom and the arms race must have passed me by, there is only one supplier of plastic hulls and the usual healthy selection of sailmakers in the top 10 at the nats, P&B, North, Redeye, Banks so I am not quite sure what you mean. |
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Russell
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blaze720
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 10:31pm |
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This is all starting to going round in circles - STOP, cadge a loan or two and simply go sailing in these boats and then just decide which one suits you. All suit somebody, all have a good following and all are great fun. The respective class associations will be more than willing to help you as well .... just do it ! Mike - Blaze 720
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fizzicist
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Posted: 13 Jan 06 at 11:41pm |
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Then there's the whole steel/carbon rig thing and different sail cuts for masts etc. They're lovely boats Phantoms but terrifyingly expensive... |
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Isis
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Posted: 14 Jan 06 at 12:19pm |
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Thats far from an arms race, thats just healthy development. Many people would rather have a choice over just having to accept what the smods lumber you with. |
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fizzicist
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Posted: 14 Jan 06 at 4:39pm |
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Depends on the kit issued with the SMOD - Laser certainly do lumber you with some garbage, but the RS300 rig is fantastic.
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Isis
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Posted: 14 Jan 06 at 4:58pm |
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Ive heard some very good things about the 300 rig so id agree that is definanatly an exception
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blaze720
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Posted: 14 Jan 06 at 5:17pm |
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Many people would rather have a choice over just having to accept what the smods lumber you with. Yes - but you don't have to just because you sail a SMOD - Get your CA to do its job a bit more proactively. The traditional classes learnt from the most recent SMOD invasion in the mid-90's (eg Fireball) Now the SMOD CA's should learn from the traditional classes - Evolve or die ..... Mike '720'
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