VOTE on compulsory CA membership

Results of the vote:

Mandatory for All Club Sailors   YES 1   NO 14

Mandatory for Racing Club Sailors   YES 6   NO 11

CA Members Voting   YES 15   NO 1

CA Committee Members Voting   YES 7   NO 9

Pretty conclusive for recreational sailors, but less clear cut for racing sailors

Of the 7 current or past CA commitee members that responded, only 2 voted YES to compulsorty CA membership for all racing sailors (interesting that a much higher proportion of non-committee members are in favour than committee members - may have something to do with the admin burden)

Only 1 respondee was not a CA member (heartening on face value, but might just reflect the readership and the fact that non members aren't interested)

Some points raised:

• The was a suggestion that some alternative funding arrangement could be explored, maybe involving the RYA in a central administrative role
• Builder contributions could be a possible source of funding fer new classes in early life, but this is not viable in the long term for established classes
• CAs were seen to be mainly the preserve of class racing sailors, which ignores a significant element of the work they do on behalf of the wider sailing fraternity
• Better promotion (and recognition) of CAs is needed to encourage new people to become involved in their association and maybe try out class sailing
• Class associations, and class racers at events, need to make special efforts to embrace newcomers
• Some form of association of class associations might be beneficial(Fastsail appear mainly to be aimed at the traditional classes)

So, do we go anywhere with this, or just leave it as no real need for change having chewed over the issues?

Edited by yellowhammer

Originally posted by yellowhammer Just a thought ... how about the builders make a significant contribution?

In most class association run classes there is a registration fee for a new boat, but there's no way it could cover all class association expenses. After all a boat may be raced competitively for 15 years with 5 or 6 different owners - there are certainly boats like that in the Cherub Class.

Originally posted by Guest#260 I think another mechanism is required to fund CA's that lowers the admin and stops the "free loading".

Just a thought ... how about the builders make a significant contribution?

Some CAs adminiter their OD builder licences and charge a fee. Some SMOD builders are better than others. That way the builder is funding a service for their buyers.

THE VOTE:

I think CA membership should be compulsory for all club members: NO

I think CA membership should be compulsory for all racing club members: NO

Main reason:
IT IS UNENFORCEABLE
Bringing in rules that can not be enforced is pointles, Forcing people to prove they have joined a CA will stop people from wanting to take part.

Do YOU want to be the person standing with a clip board telling people to go home?

I am a CA member: YES

I am a CA committee member: NO

I think everyone should join but they should WANT to join. I do not want to belong to a club (which is what a CA is ) that has members that do not want to be members

 

No, Yes if fleet racing in a class with a class captain (who would be the conduit to the CA), no if handicapping in a mixed fleet (as unenforcable), yes, and yes.