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    Posted: 22 Jun 05 at 1:42pm
hey all!
got a serious problem with my int 14 after the regatta last weekend. we developed an incredible boatspeed and are now one of the fastest boats! but the problem is we canīt go as high as the other 14s on close-hauld course. itīs not only a little bit itīs an enourmous bit! we have to overtake all the boats leeward. any suggestions of maybe changing the forestay or the rig tension? please help is really needed! thanks all in advance!
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is the incresed speed a result of not pointing as high, remember its one or the other
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Spot192 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 05 at 4:01pm
from my point of view we are as high as possible. the speed could be the result of the new main and me riding the main but the height is really a problem.
i started with some melons guytoon, will it help?
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Originally posted by Spot192

hey all!
got a serious problem with my int 14 after the regatta last weekend. we
developed an incredible boatspeed and are now one of the fastest boats!
but the problem is we canīt go as high as the other 14s on close-hauld


You can always point higher by slowing down:-)

Its both the best and the worst thing about a development class that each boat will have its own ideal settings for best performance. Some folk will get their best speed by going high and slower, some by going lower but faster.

Adds a lot more interest and means that there's a lot more variety in the racing and tactics, but also means that unless Fred National Champion has exactly the same boat rig and sails as you and weights exactly the same then taking the settings of his/her boat won't mean that you will go faster, and its much more down to you to work out what's fast for you and your boat.

If you've got a modern rig then a lot of kicker to power up the mid leech, followed by a lot of downhaul to blade off the top so you're not overpowered can help pointing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Spot192 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 05 at 4:14pm
hey jim that sounds like a useful idea! wasnīt searching for a particular setting of  someone cos we donīt have avarage weight, i was only looking for some suggestions, anything that comes into your mind i could try out. itīs really annoying to see everyone reaching the bouy and you are blasting around, till you reached the bouy too and can start racing cos with kite up everythingīs normal!
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What did you change to make the boat so much faster?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote m_liddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 05 at 9:55pm

Sounds like a mast rake issue. I'm very new to the 14 though and mast rake seems to be used extensively to depower more than other classes though. In other classes I’ve sailed the rake really effects pointing vs downwind speed.

 

The 14 website has some rakes but mainly for penultimates. Might still be useful though.

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I don't know I14s, but in other classes I'd try more rig tension (reduce jib sag) and more kicker tension (close the main leech).

When you say "from my point of view we are as high as possible" what exactly do you mean?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Granite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 05 at 8:55am

Have a look at the jib slot this can make a big difference if it is blown open you will struggle to point.

The positions of the kicker and mainsheet strops could be different for the same sort of leech tention for each main sail.

does the new main have a larger roach than the old one?


What sort of conditions were you out in? were you looking for power or over powered?

 

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