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    Posted: 16 May 11 at 1:58pm
Any suggestions on a boat for a friend of mine? She is 16, roughly 5 foot 9 I think and estimate 60 kgs. Having crewed on an ISO, 29er and various other boats occasionally, as well as helming a topaz and a Feva reasonably well at club level, she is looking for something faster, preferably asymmetric, maybe with trapeze but not a requirement. I have suggested a 700 due to weight equalization etc. but any other suggestions would be much appreciated.  Smile
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Much as it pains me to say as a dedicated 700 sailor...  She is probably at the light end of the spectrum for the 700 as the bottom range of the equalisation is arround 70kg,  unless of course you have a light wind venue.    
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There is currently no UK marketed trapeze singlehander for a person of 60kg. You need to consider boat weight on the beach and for righting after a capsize, sheet loads, control systems etc.

Hiking assymetrics are thin on the ground for that waight as well. There is the RS100 with the 8.4 or the baby sail (7.4 I think). Or there is the Vareo but I don't know the ideal weight for that.

By the sounds of things she will make an ideal half a crew for the new RS900.
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Originally posted by Contender443

There is currently no UK marketed trapeze singlehander for a person of 60kg..



UK marketed? I suppose that is true, but I have just imported the first Farr 3.7 from NZ into the UK, which is a singlehanded trapeze dinghy perfectly suited to a 60kg sailor. I will be doing my best to raise interest and promote the class in the UK, this may not be considered as marketing but never the less for the early adopter the 3.7 is worth considering. Plans are available from the class for boat builders or home builds, I also have nested AutoCad files of the plans for laser cutting ply to aid the home builder, and importing a boat from NZ isnt as complex or as expensive as you think. Well, not know I have found all the pitfalls by doing it my self! So the Farr 3.7 could be worth a thought for anyone of smaller build looking for a singlehanded trapeze boat.



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I wondered how long it would be before you turned up Jack. I did choose my wording carefully, perhaps I should have said professionally marketed by one of our excellent dinghy suppliers in the UK.
 
I wish you luck with the 3.7 and I can't wait to see it. You will have to keep us updated on your events programme.
 
The UK is calling out for a lightweights trapeze boat. So come on Ovi, RS, Hartleys, Laser, Topper, Cirrus - one of you must have the balls to build & sell something like the 3.7....
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Good bit of advertizing there! Looking forward to some pics of her sailing, and your view on how she goes in UK waters.
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I weigh 62Kg and sail a contender.  I would undoubtedly be faster upwind with a more weight but it's certainly manageable.  Nice new carbon rig would help.  It's as easy as a laser to right after a capsize so that shouldn't be a problem.  It is a little heavy though.

The Farr 3.7 is top of my list when I can afford it.
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I would add that she should defiantly avoid any weight equalized classes.  It's hard enough for the light guys without adding extra lead.
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Originally posted by Foiling_Toff

I would add that she should defiantly avoid any weight equalized classes.  It's hard enough for the light guys without adding extra lead.
 
Are there any weight equalised classes out there? 
 
By definition equalisation should be designed to make things fairer across the board...
 
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With weight equalised classes, it does tend to mean that the lightest people have the heaviest boat to lug around the dinghy park, in some cases, you could be knackered before launching. Never been a great fan of weight equalisation, never seen it done in a way that is fair to all!!

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