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    Posted: 11 Jun 05 at 5:24pm

Im currently a student at uni and with a really limited budget of around £500. Im really keen on gettin a laser or a moth. Ive had a few years sailing experience and im up for a challenge. I would just love some advice on what to get and what sort of money im looking at spending.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 05 at 7:26pm

I bet that, after 52 pages of answers (and completely off-the-point remarks "omg-yeah-lol"), you'll be advised to opt for something of a compromise.

If you get a Laser, you'll take half an hour to find on the beach after lunch: there are so many around!

On the other hand, the Moth seems to be a nice origami...  

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i am a laser sailor my self, get a moth

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go for a moth, and if you want any advice on purchasing one then give me a private message and i can forward more info to you.

heres but a sample of where the moth could take you (in this case, upwards)

 

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I want a 14, but im a student :(

There are at least two of us on here who are students who own I14s, there are good ones availible for under £1000. This is more than your £500 budget but if you share the cost with your helm/crew you would be OK. Have a look in this thread:

http://www.intersail.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=731& ;PN=2

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Yeh im the other student with a 14!! definetly worth it if you can sail with a mate, otherwise get a moth, lasers are incredibly boring unless you have a fleet near you, fleet racing in lasers is brilliant and great fun, but racing against other classes you suddenly realise how poor they can be, get a moth!!
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heres but a sample of where the moth could take you (in this case, upwards)

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Presume that moth cost a bit over £500 ???????!!!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris Noble Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 05 at 10:53pm
well not to start with but if you want to stay in the class long term, as i said it COULD LEAD TO such things
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I'm quite surprised someone would even think "Moth or Laser?" They are entirely different animals. Moth will mean handicap racing: don't expect meaningful class racing on that budget. They are fast and challenging to sail. Lasers are a very dated design now but provide great fleet racing with fleets at most clubs and competition at all levels. So what do you like most about sailing? Answer that and the choice should be obvious.

If you buy a cheap Moth you can expect to be making frequent use of an epoxy repair kit. They are lightly built and for £500 you will be getting something quite old. That, at least, was my experience. It is not a reason for not getting one, it is just good to understand what you are getting into.

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£500 got me this magnum 6, including the meatiest combi trailer you've ever seen.  Add about £60ish for fiddling to get things how I wanted, as well as cost of repainting/varnishing once a year.  Probably more than a laser would cost you, but its great fun and when it goes, really flies.

 

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