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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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Hi
I'm 15, have been sailing the Laser 4.7/Radial for 3 years now (plus topaz and L2k for 5 years previously), but I want to change to a trapeze boat. Given the apparent lack of any crews for a 29er, I'm looking into an MPS, but im only 60 kg at the moment. Given i'll be 16 and probably 65kg by the time I start sailing the thing properly (GCSEs are, sadly, going to entertain me till June), is it really possible to sail these things at all? I have had fair experience+tuition helming and crewing 500s, Vagos and 29ers. I don't need something for incredibly serious racing, but i'd like a challenge and something that i can do club racing in at least a bit and can keep sailing for a while. If i cant sail in stronger winds, then so be it, there's always the backup laser Radial ![]() So, is the MPS something i can at least manage? And is it something i can enjoy sailing fairly regularely, maybe 3 times a fortnight? There's someone else my age getting one, so the Musto is preferable over the 700 Thanks
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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I think it will be quite a steep learning curve, but if you persevere and keep practising you should get the hang of it. My mate went from a Laser to an RS 600 (similar to the Musto Skiff) and he coped fine.
Ovington recommend that you weigh at least 70kg for capsize recovery, so I'd go with at least that. It's a bitch trying to right a boat you're too light for >_< And about the 'apparent lack of any crews for a 29er' thing. I'll happily crew one for you (similar ages)!
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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Haha well at least someone has some sense :) we have one 29er, a 500 and soon a Musto sailed ages 13-18, and then the rest all sail Fevas, Picos and Cadets. Barely even any Lasers >:( Thing is, they dont say anywhere what the right weight, so its a bit of a guessing game. I suppose a bit of practice could at least get rid of some of the weight issue...
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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I reckon you could get away with being under 70kg if you did a lot of hard work with the boat and spent lots of time sailing it. It would probably just take longer to right the boat when it falls over.
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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I'll keep looking for a 29er crew, but if there isnt a regular one available then the MPS shall have to do :)
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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Good luck :) You could try an RS 600 if you don't find anyone? I think they have some kind of weight equalization thingy (Extendable racks and lead weights etc.) that could make it easier for you to compete with others.
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s.a.l.t.y ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 08 Location: Costa del Essex Online Status: Offline Posts: 517 |
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I would agree, RS600 is probably the best step towards the Musto IMHO. Im only 65kgs and with the wide racks i dont have any problems sailing it. Im still heavy enough to get it back up from capsized aswell so you shouldnt have any issues with that either.
Fair enough us small people cant hold the power in the heavier stuff but you just have to man up and hold onto what you can :) Another bonus with the 600 is that the cost is at least half of any Musto Skiff you could find. So a real bargain boat considering they are quite closely matched in speed (apart from when the big flapper goes up on the Musto downwind). It is definitely something you should consider
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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I suppose if i look at a 600 i may as well look at a 700 at the same time, neither have a fleet here so does anyone know what the 700's like to sail, plus weight considerations?
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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I looked in the class rules for the 700, and in the section where it discusses weight correctors and rack settings for different weights the lowest category is 'less than 75kg' so I'm guessing your gonna struggle a little bit when it gets windier.
http://www.rs-association.com/index.asp?fleet=RS700&selection=Documents There's the link for all the 700 documents and all that crap, you might find some more weight stuff there. No idea what they're like to sail, they look pretty fast though. I'd imagine they're just a bigger, faster 600 with a kite.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The 700 had to be made rather more stable than the 600 (by adding chines) to enable the helm to get the kite up without the boat sliding out from under. Stable is a relative term, of course...
Good luck with the project - you'll have fun which ever you buy.
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