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    Posted: 17 Aug 09 at 10:39pm
I've got a new CeeVee stock for the other half's Europe, and the bottom SeaSure gudgeon it came with needs to be changed to a pintle.

Problem is, I cannot for the life of me get the gudgeon off, there's three countersunk bolts up each side, with the nut on the outside, and the screw head on the inside...of a stock that's only 21mm wide.

Even with a cunningly designed home made sideways screwdriver thing, it's all too tight (with a poor quality screw head too) to get it undone, and even hacksawing a slot on the nut side (outside) I can't get them out.

Before I attack it tomorrow in a shower of Anglo Saxon and an angle grinder, is there some special way of doing this?  Seems a shame as there's £20 of unused rudder gudgeon that's gonna be a very expensive piece of scrap by the time I've angle ground it's ass!

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Is the thread (on the outside) long enough to get some mole grips onto, then stick a ring spanner on first, grind on the moles and voila? Unless (as is probably the case) it's corroded to buggery..

 Prob need some new bolts put it back together...


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You could do it the easy way .. and just change the fitting on the hull?
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So the nut and screw just rotate if you put a spanner on the nut?

Must be some loctite or locknuts involved?

Heat will break down loctite.

Otherwise you have a perfect excuse to buy a dremel.

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Put a spanner on the nut, then get a small drill (the same diameter as the bolt)and and start drilling a hole down the bolt.  It may start unscrewing, or just gradually drill the bolt/screw away.  You should be able to save scrapping the pintle.  You could also try getting a dremel or similar and grinding the nuts off.
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I had exactly the same problem on a RS stock.

i got screwdriver bit out of my drill set, clamped it tightly into a pair of mole grips so that it faced perpendicularly outwards and then wound the nut off with a socket set.

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One tip to undo stubbon screws is to tighten them first - this helps to break any gunk.  Then try to undo.
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Cheers for the tips.  Stock is brand new...there's no corrosion.  Bolts are almost flush on the outside so there's no room for mole grips.  There's not enough room between the plates of the stock to get a bit from a socket/screwdriver set in (the stock is designed for a 21mm blade remember).  Not sure about the 90 degree driver, I don't have one, I had thought about it, but in my experience the end is usually more than 21mm long

I might try drilling it, but if it breaks or slips I risk scratching the stock, where at least  if I use the grinder I know there's less chance of that happening.  I've got a dremel, but even with that there's going to be marks on the black anodised bit of the gudgeon.

Changing the boat is a non-starter, the gudgeons on the boat are just plain 90 degree pieces of folded stainless...changing it to a seasure pintle means filling and re-drilling as the hole spacing is wider, and the reinforced part inside the transom won't be right either and will need windening too.

Thanks anyway, but grinder it is then!!!!
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